Remove Malefic II [Ast]

[Faliandra]

So...are we gonna open a new thread for every possible job skill to be removed/modified?



Pretty sure that, if theyre going to remove some Thunder versions of BLM, they will try and apply similar changes to other classes as well.
Since...y'know, every class will need to make room for new skills. This thread is pointless.

[Eloah]

While they may not remove it Malefic II is a part of the skills that might see a change, either to a trait or reconfiguring.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

"Set in stone"



You were saying?

The point is, it's better to say it now then when the game's already out and they're busy with something else entirely.

Also, those were all minor changes. Balance changes, TP adjustments, potency adjustments, casting time adjustments. We never had anything as big as removing spells and merging them into one. For all we know it could be something that isn't worth doing mid expansion and we'd have wait until 5.0, just because we decided to wait until the expansion actually released instead of having the idea in their heads while Stormblood development was still a fresh topic.

[ErryK]

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If they already stated they are reducing button bloat, and we have a general idea (ie. Thunder II and III being merged into Thunder I), we can safely assume most classes are being treated the same way due to the nature of how these spells work (ie. Stone II being literally useless at Lv60 regardless of the situation, while Stone I gives heavy (useful in PvP) and Stone III is highest potency thus most damaging. The main point I'm trying to make is SE must know what they are doing if they know skill bloat is a thing.

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Making suggestions that are already common sense is not making suggestions, it's just bloating the forums. We already know that AST should have Malefic I and Malefic II combined, just like how WHM should have Stone I-III combined and scale with level, just like how BLM should have Thunder I-III combined and scale with level. SE clearly know what they're doing if they know skill bloat is an issue that's brought up, it's been brought up since 3.0 days, and that was nearly 2 years ago.

[Violyre]

I have a macro for several abilities that get replaced later. The way I set them up is that the highest level skill will go off first, and if you don't have the higher one, it automatically goes to the next in line. It won't cast the lower abilities because you're using a spell already, they all trigger at the same time.

/macroicon "Malefic"
/ac "Malefic II <t>
/ac "Malefic" <t>

[Alistaire]

I have a macro for several abilities that get replaced later. The way I set them up is that the highest level skill will go off first, and if you don't have the higher one, it automatically goes to the next in line. It won't cast the lower abilities because you're using a spell already, they all trigger at the same time.

/macroicon "Malefic"
/ac "Malefic II <t>
/ac "Malefic" <t>

As a side-note, making macros like this no longer bad in 4.0 by making them work like normal actions would also be a good step toward reducing button bloat, then people can save a variety of buttons that not everyone would want/need to and use these macros without losing dps.

[LunarEmerald]

Ruin is only useful for summoner because it costs less MP than Ruin II. If they were the same, nobody would ever use ruin again except when instances sync you down and you no longer have Ruin II.

It's this kind of redundancy that creates skill bloat.