AuRa and the ability to chance horns

[Evergrey]

Greetings.

I know this has been talked about alot over the past 2 years.
But now (later) when we will move away from the PS3 limitations, will there sometime be a time when AuRa will be able to have the option like other races, to be able to chance their ears (the horns are their ears).

If I remember correctly (been a while now) I read that one of the reason we can't have it is because each horn were sculped for each face and if switched it would mess up the positioning of the horns and mess with helmets etc.
But when looking in the character creation none of the faces are wider than the other, and the horns never change their base location. So I dunno if I just remember wrong or not. =/ *Look at the Edited part*

I know that by doing this it would put more work on the developers and all that. I just wonder if it is possible for the future. This would however also mess with all the current AuRa (and planned in SB) if they also would have to be updated to fit this more Randomized AuRa look.

I'm sorry that I bring this topic back to life (again). I just think (still) that this could bring much to the players.

Edit:



This is what I talked about, "the point where they connect may end up looking weird". In the character creation the point the face and horn connect never changes. Or have I missunderstood what he meant?

( Pictures taken as an example from the old huge thread about horns)



Since one can see for themself in the character creator that the argument about that "the connection points may look weird" has nothing to do with this really since the points never change location, and all hairstyles are already modeled for each horn already etc, the only logical reason to not add the option is the limitation of data for the character creation.
Now I am in no way a technical guy so I got no idea how things like this works. But I really hope that there is a way or another to actually make this possible sometime. This would make such a big difference.

[Knahli]

It'd be nice but I won't count on it. I was luckily enough to get my favourite horns matched together with my favourite faces for both my Au Ra but I understand the feeling.

[Vejjiegirl]

...

Actually I remember Yoshi-P touching on the actual reason a while back.
There is a Memory limit per player character.
The PS3 can not handle too many Character Creator Selections, And for Au Ra it is currently at its limit memory wise.
It's why a lot of races have very few selections in the character creator compared to others.
For example Miqo'te having 4 Jaw options and Au Ra only having 3, or Miqo'te having 8 tails selections and au ra only having 4.


Many Character creator selections are also in the same slots as each other,
Face
Jaw
Hairstyle
EyeShape
Eyebrows
Nose
Mouth
are examples of selections in thier own slots.

Muscle Slider, Tail Shape, Ear Shape All share the same slot
Tattoos, Limbal Ring, Ear Claps are also in the same slot

This also explains why races with Ear shape/size and Tail Shape Size, cannot have a Muscle Slider.



In the past I collected data from the character creator

Below is the information I collected:

Female Character Creation Options:

Face:
Hyur Midlander =5
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

*(Hyur Midlander essentially have more jaw,eyeshapes,eyebrows, nose shapes, and mouth shapes due to have an extra face this is why they are not red below)*


Jaw:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 3
Au Ra = 3

EyeShape:
Hyur Midlander = 5
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 5
Au Ra = 5

Eyebrows:
Hyur Mildander = 5
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 5
Lalafell = 5
Miqo'te = 5
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

Nose:
Hyur Midlander = 5
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 6
Au Ra = 5

Mouth:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell =4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

EarShape/TailShape:
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 8
Au Ra = 4

*(Miqo'te, Au Ra, Lalalfell, Elezen Only)*

Tattoos/Limbal Ring/Ear Clasps:
Hyur Midlander(Tattoos change with face)= 2
Hyur Highlander(Tattoos change with face) = 2
Elezen = 2
Lalafell = 2
Miqo'te = 2
Au Ra = 2
Roegadyn(Tattoos change with face) = 2

Male Character Creation Options:

Face:
Hyur Midlander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4


Jaw:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 3
Au Ra = 4

EyeShape:
Hyur Midlander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 5
Au Ra = 6

Eyebrows:
Hyur Mildander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 5
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 6

Nose:
Hyur Midlander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 6
Au Ra = 6

Mouth:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

EarShape/TailShape:
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 8
Au Ra = 4

*(Miqo'te, Au Ra, Lalalfell, Elezen Only)*

Tattoos/Limbal Ring/Ear Clasps:
Hyur Midlander(Tattoos change with face)= 2
Hyur Highlander(Tattoos change with face) = 2
Elezen = 2
Lalafell = 2
Miqo'te = 2
Au Ra = 2
Roegadyn(Tattoos change with face) = 2

In 1.0 the characteristics, the characteristic color, mouth, nose, features, ears, eyes, and iris all into 32 bits using a bitfield.

Characteristics were 5 bits. (31 options) <- This is probably as flags rather than a number though, so actually 6 options
Characteristic Color was 3 bits. (7 options)
Face type was 6 bits. (63 options) <- This is probably as flags rather than a number though, so actually 7 options
Ears was 2 bits. (3 options)
Mouth was 2 bits. (3 options)
Features was 2 bits. (3 options)
Nose was 3 bits. (7 options)
Eye shape 3 bits. (7 options)
Iris size 1 bit. (2 options)
Eyebrows 3 bits. (7 options)
With 2 bits remaining that are unused. (3 options)

Amount of option combinations for each race/subrace:
Midlander m / f: 699.840 / 350000
Highlander m / f: 299.520 / 1.267.200
Elezen m / f: 1.520.640 / 7.488.000
Lalafell m / f: 1.589.760 / 2.995.200
Miqo'te m / f: 1.814.400 / 11.232.000
Roegadyn m / f: 201.600 / 792.000
Au Ra m / f: 1.451.520 / 2.520.000
Winners are Miqo'te female: 11.232.000
Losers - Roegadyn male: 201.600

By a factor of 55,7.

[Lunaxia]

I wouldn't mind the option to change horn colours, but I don't like the idea of having horns and face separate.

Everyone's inevitably going to choose the same face with the same narrow, pointing-back horns.

[Vejjiegirl]

I wouldn't mind the option to change horn colours, but I don't like the idea of having horns and face separate.

Everyone's inevitably going to choose the same face with the same narrow, pointing-back horns.

Almost everyone already chooses the same face anyways. Au Ra Face 1, and I think its mainly because of the horrible clipping issues that the other horns have with hairstyles and hats, if SE where to fix the horn clipping issues then I suspect a few more people would probably try the other horns.
FFXIV Customization needs more options for more Diversity. Not Less.

[Voltyblast]

Well all I can say is, the initial blame was on the fact that the PS3 held the team back and it would often be used as an excuse. Fair enough, I can probably understand it since it's a weaker console.

....now I wonder what excuse they'll bring now that the ps3 support will cease.

[Canadane]

You'd think someone who plays an Au Ra would know that the Auri race isn't called AuRa but instead Au Ra.

[Anzaman]

Almost everyone already chooses the same face anyways. Au Ra Face 1, and I think its mainly because of the horrible clipping issues that the other horns have with hairstyles and hats, if SE where to fix the horn clipping issues then I suspect a few more people would probably try the other horns.
FFXIV Customization needs more options for more Diversity. Not Less.

I might go with this this face, but I'm not comfy with the horns - so whenever I decide to play as Au Ra, I'm more or less "forced" to go with face #1 since they don't give us ability to choose face/horns.

[Evergrey]

Yes I know we had limitations to how much we could have for costumization. That's why I'm asking now when PS3 will seize if we might be able to get more.
And the Horns are quite a big feature on the AuRa. So it would be nice to have that as a personal option.

You'd think someone who plays an Au Ra would know that the Auri race isn't called AuRa but instead Au Ra.

-hehe- I usually do spell it as Au Ra, but I felt extra lazy so I didn't this time. ^^

[Rokke]

Everyone's inevitably going to choose the same face with the same narrow, pointing-back horns.

Nope, face 3 + bat wing horns would be my pick for my femra! They're my fav horns but I don't really care for the face they're attached to

I would love if they were able to unlock the horns/faces. As it is now, you're more or less forced to pick between cool horns or a cute face. The horns looking weird attaching to the head argument was always weak to me, since all the horns look silly the way the taper at the base lol