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  1. #41
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Anyone remember the Mr Happy Garuda EX strat everyone used in 2.1/2.2 that was so melee unfriendly parties would refuse to allow any in? There were other strats out there, but everyone in NA and EU used this one because Mr Happy showed it off.

    And it made getting your weekly Primals done as a melee very hard, unless you had a ranged or healer geared enough for Garuda EX.

    That's the kind of thing that would happen with more varied gear. And it happens in all MP games; a set is found that is superior in some way (even if its just because a popular streamer prefers it) and everyone needs to use it or get kicked. Same thing with skill trees and the like.

    Not even hard to see it with the gear we have now either...
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  2. #42
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    Ririta Rita
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Any particular reason for this? Or is this referencing the "why we [SE] chose not to make any new tank or healer roles this go-around" part?
    It is. The reasons he always gives for the lack of a new tank and healer actually applies more to DPS jobs (especially melee) so it upsets me in a way that I can't put it in words.
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  3. #43
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    for me it was the most disappointing. i want ishgard housing especially because i want to live in the snow... _._
    i have been waiting Ishgard housing since 3.0, simply because the snow
    it kinda remind me where I came from, and if the housing in Ishgard lose it iconic snow, then there is no point getting a house there
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  4. #44
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    Maybelline Charmers
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    It is. The reasons he always gives for the lack of a new tank and healer actually applies more to DPS jobs (especially melee) so it upsets me in a way that I can't put it in words.
    You know, I find it somewhat amusing that the reason he states for not adding them is the same reason for wanting to simplify the stats and gear, yet this meta argument about the gear that has been going on in this thread has seemed to totally ignored this.
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  5. #45
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Any particular reason for this? Or is this referencing the "why we [SE] chose not to make any new tank or healer roles this go-around" part?
    to be honest, i rather want dev add no new jobs, and rebalance every single jobs
    when i have Diurnal Sect, i feel like playing my WHM again, and when I have Nocturnal Sect on, feel like SCH again
    the difference between AST/WHM, and AST/SCH feel rather insignificant
    instead of making more clone job, I want stronger identity for my different jobs
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  6. #46
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    They think gear is already too complicated??? Speaks volumes about their view of the average intelligence of their player base. Then again.....
    When I used to be on Gilgamesh I've seen players think they can take 1000 needles from a Cactuar thinking it's just the name of the abililty.
    "woooow that mob is OP!" Can't even get mad, I'm just here for the ride.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 03-19-2017 at 11:55 AM.
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Daiki Kiyoshi
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    When I used to be on Gilgamesh I've seen players think they can take 1000 needles from a Cactuar thinking it's just the name of the abililty.
    "woooow that mob is OP!" Can't even get mad, I'm just here for the ride.
    Watching that will never stop being funny. xD It's also one of the fastest ways to get an idea of if someone is new to Final Fantasy in general.
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  8. #48
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    Rosalynne Hawethorne
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    The part about further simplifying and streamlining gear is concerning. Gear stats are already very boring and limited and coming into their second expansion they want to dumb it down even more?
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  9. #49
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    Sargatanas
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    Sage Lv 100
    Since gear gets outdated so quickly I wish that instead we could have horizontal progression via our character, similar to FFXI's merit system. From my own discussions a lot of the reason that some players don't meld is that the opportunity cost is simply not worth it for how quickly gear is outdated. Having upgrades attached to your character might encourage more people to participate. Yes certain builds might become required by the raiding community but it if done well it could provide something like horizontal progression.
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    Last edited by Naria; 03-19-2017 at 03:25 PM.

  10. #50
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    "You know, [people] who are upset about no tanks or healers being introduced, he [Yoshida] feels that it’s less “oh if you had introduced a tank or healer I would have played it” [and] more “oh the wait queues are going to be longer, the matching is going to be so many DPS waiting!”

    He's so wrong though. D: I just wanted to play a new healer class. Not sure what the heck he's talking about with not wanting "more stress" for those who play tanks/healers. Why on earth would adding a new class create stress??

    I like that they want to try implementing entirely new classes into FFXIV, though. Good. Creativity is good.
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