Twinfinite Interview

[Dualgunner]

If I were to hazard a guess, it would be that the stress of adding a new healer or tank comes from the small amount of role positions available to them in an 8 man composition.

For the first time, Tanks and Healers had to undergo similar scrutiny to a DPS regarding finding a place in the meta comp. In HW, two tanks and two healers meant PLD/WAR/SCH/WHM was guaranteed and they were fine for the most part. No matter what tank or healer you rolled, you had a place in the meta. When DRK and AST were added, suddenly that was no longer true. In fact, AST and DRK booted WHM and PLD from the meta almost entirely.

They are still working out mechanics to make all healers and tanks work for anything, without making them all classes homogenized. As far as DPS go, they already sort of have their comps figured out since that has been the DPS's challenge all along. I'd be happier if they worked out better tanking and healing mechanics before throwing even more tanks and healers into the broken pot that is the current meta.

And what Yoshi is trying to stress regarding "players didn't switch" he probably means more along the lines of "Making a popular job into a tank just to make people play tank doesn't work like people think it will."

[RLofOBFL]

Sigh....even simpler gear? Really? I want to like Yoshi & he seems like a fun guy but he has seriously made really questionable decisions throughout 3.x & now it's continuing into 4.0. It's like for every 1 good there is 3 bad. Really sucked out a lot of the hype I had for SB.

[Aquaslash]

It is. The reasons he always gives for the lack of a new tank and healer actually applies more to DPS jobs (especially melee) so it upsets me in a way that I can't put it in words.

But it doesn't? Ignore the speedrunning meme. All of the DPS are fine as regards to their damage output on comparison to each other, ESPECIALLY melee. Last I checked, the top and bottom jobs were within striking range of each other. Even then, a skilled monk can blow away an average Machinist any day.

The only issue the dps jobs have is that MNK doesn't do enough damage (anymore) to offset it's lack of utility(which is blatantly the intent), and that's likely nothing a Greased Lightning 4 can't solve.

[Yasuhiro]

Sigh....even simpler gear? Really? I want to like Yoshi & he seems like a fun guy but he has seriously made really questionable decisions throughout 3.x & now it's continuing into 4.0. It's like for every 1 good there is 3 bad. Really sucked out a lot of the hype I had for SB.

It's an unpopular opinion but I think his job was done when he relaunched FFXIV, he's more like an ideas guy. It's patch 3.5 and I'm still waiting on those risks he said he could take with Heavensward was it Diadem? Verminion? Aether currents?

Maybe SB will be his magnum opus even with some of these choices, who knows. I'm not gonna leave anytime soon I guess.
I did send him a thank you message in another thread cause gotta give credit where it's due.

[BigRed5392]

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my g.f played ff11 for 7 years, and told me she was harassed for not having the "o-hat" (idk what that is) and black belt. She would be replaces as rmd for not having ele staves. (again idk what that is) They don't work because of community rules not allowing it. Then you had gear swaping which ppl would swap out gear with each attack. My g/f was harassed for not doing that simple due to not having the gear or inv space.

My g/f is of the opinion that playing your character, and gearing up said character should be easy. That the challenge should in the content. The reason we have a large gap is people can't master their job like people want. Simply due to how complex it is to master them, and rather not see it with gear. She is also not used to the way gearing works in ff14 and restarted a few times because of the Post gap gear grind being confusing to her.

[Istaru]

Sigh....even simpler gear? Really? I want to like Yoshi & he seems like a fun guy but he has seriously made really questionable decisions throughout 3.x & now it's continuing into 4.0. It's like for every 1 good there is 3 bad. Really sucked out a lot of the hype I had for SB.

I love Yoshida, I really do. But, every time I read another interview, my sadness at the direction of the game grows. Gearing is currently very boring and uninteresting, and they are going to push that even further in SB?

This is not an I'm quitting post. I don't plan to go anywhere. I had been considering lowering my expectations even more and just do story/quests and crafting. But in a separate interview, he talked about lowering the role of crafters even more. Again.

At this point, I'm not sure what he's trying to accomplish.

[Aquaslash]

It's an unpopular opinion but I think his job was done when he relaunched FFXIV, he's more like an ideas guy. It's patch 3.5 and I'm still waiting on those risks he said he could take with Heavensward was it Diadem? Verminion? Aether currents?

Maybe SB will be his magnum opus even with some of these choices, who knows. I'm not gonna leave anytime soon I guess.
I did send him a thank you message in another thread cause gotta give credit where it's due.

To be fair, they did try numerous things throughout HW. Aquapolis, Diadem, Vermillion, PotD, Wondrous Tails, Custom Deliveries, Savage Raiding, etc

The things that succeeded did pretty well. The things that flopped did so spectacularly.

[Shougun]

my g.f played ff11 for 7 years, and told me she was harassed for not having the "o-hat" (idk what that is) and black belt. She would be replaces as rmd for not having ele staves. (again idk what that is) They don't work because of community rules not allowing it. Then you had gear swaping which ppl would swap out gear with each attack. My g/f was harassed for not doing that simple due to not having the gear or inv space.

My g/f is of the opinion that playing your character, and gearing up said character should be easy. That the challenge should in the content. The reason we have a large gap is people can't master their job like people want. Simply due to how complex it is to master them, and rather not see it with gear. She is also not used to the way gearing works in ff14 and restarted a few times because of the Post gap gear grind being confusing to her.

FFXI's gear swapping is a whole bag of issues when it comes to gearing up, instead of having a set of acceptable gear you have to have ALL SETS and the game was horizontal lol. Nightmare easily. However I would like to suggest looking into WoW if you're only focusing on gear having interesting affixes, since FFXI may be harder to peal apart due to the can actually use everything .. thing (like I had macros for individual spells, whole gear sets for single spells - sometimes I would just flash through the whole battle XD).

WoW is definitely far more linear in growth than FFXI and they not only have ability affixes but they have a lot of them through relics (basically special materia), enchanter, and items (trinkets almost always having something nifty to them). Its true certain abilities and trinkets are trash, and sometimes the options become super freaking specific --- BUT, as it is linear most of the time it is upward while still having what I guess I'd call breath mints, the ability affixes can freshen the game's breath after certain hours of playing around with mechanics.

Because of a certain set of weapons I acquired for like 5 levels I had a melee hunter because it literally did more damage lol.

Affixes do not have to be associated with horizontal progression, although I would like to see semi-horizontal so I don't go from one primal to the next with each one before it always being entirely trash items. FFXI was (was) years of horizontal, I'd rather not have that because it really makes end game for those who have A LOT OF TIME (something your GF is probably picking up on, which is less to do with affixes and the fact that it is both horizontal and you could gear swap).

So I'm not saying she didn't have issues, I'm just suggesting a major portion of those issues probably came from that you can gear swap and there was a big wall of horizontal content. So you want one staff for this spell, another staff for that, this chest for swiping with your sword, these for TP, etc etc.

[MicahZerrshia]

Nice shire gear.

I don't understand what my gear has to do with this. I work for my gear, learn my job, learn my role, do the best I can and hold back when someone cant keep up and try to help them through. I do stuff all the time, I don't ask for nerfs, in fact I ask for better/more difficult/interesting content. If I cannot do something due to my schedule I simply shrug it off and deal with it, since it is after all my schedule not the other 4m players. I would like long term goals, glamour is not endgame for me its simply a utility...see where I'm going with this?

Just because I am opposed to SE catering to someone who doesn't want to put any effort in whatsoever and asks for handouts because they like pretty dresses and nothing else does not mean I cannot use a utility like glamour. If anything my options for glamour should be larger since I do in fact put in the effort to obtain items whether its by crafting or raiding or grinding. I may grumble a little if I feel SE just phoned something in, but that is because I am hoping they improve and not default to the ppl who want to log in and just get everything in their mog mail.

[BigRed5392]

Anyone remember the Mr Happy Garuda EX strat everyone used in 2.1/2.2 that was so melee unfriendly parties would refuse to allow any in? There were other strats out there, but everyone in NA and EU used this one because Mr Happy showed it off.

And it made getting your weekly Primals done as a melee very hard, unless you had a ranged or healer geared enough for Garuda EX.

That's the kind of thing that would happen with more varied gear. And it happens in all MP games; a set is found that is superior in some way (even if its just because a popular streamer prefers it) and everyone needs to use it or get kicked. Same thing with skill trees and the like.

Not even hard to see it with the gear we have now either...

this is what my g/f was talking about.

she was around in 1.0 with the blm group only, garuda fight as a group of blm would burn her down with a higher success rate due to an exploit.