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    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    my g.f played ff11 for 7 years, and told me she was harassed for not having the "o-hat" (idk what that is) and black belt. She would be replaces as rmd for not having ele staves. (again idk what that is) They don't work because of community rules not allowing it. Then you had gear swaping which ppl would swap out gear with each attack. My g/f was harassed for not doing that simple due to not having the gear or inv space.

    My g/f is of the opinion that playing your character, and gearing up said character should be easy. That the challenge should in the content. The reason we have a large gap is people can't master their job like people want. Simply due to how complex it is to master them, and rather not see it with gear. She is also not used to the way gearing works in ff14 and restarted a few times because of the Post gap gear grind being confusing to her.
    FFXI's gear swapping is a whole bag of issues when it comes to gearing up, instead of having a set of acceptable gear you have to have ALL SETS and the game was horizontal lol. Nightmare easily. However I would like to suggest looking into WoW if you're only focusing on gear having interesting affixes, since FFXI may be harder to peal apart due to the can actually use everything .. thing (like I had macros for individual spells, whole gear sets for single spells - sometimes I would just flash through the whole battle XD).

    WoW is definitely far more linear in growth than FFXI and they not only have ability affixes but they have a lot of them through relics (basically special materia), enchanter, and items (trinkets almost always having something nifty to them). Its true certain abilities and trinkets are trash, and sometimes the options become super freaking specific --- BUT, as it is linear most of the time it is upward while still having what I guess I'd call breath mints, the ability affixes can freshen the game's breath after certain hours of playing around with mechanics.

    Because of a certain set of weapons I acquired for like 5 levels I had a melee hunter because it literally did more damage lol.

    Affixes do not have to be associated with horizontal progression, although I would like to see semi-horizontal so I don't go from one primal to the next with each one before it always being entirely trash items. FFXI was (was) years of horizontal, I'd rather not have that because it really makes end game for those who have A LOT OF TIME (something your GF is probably picking up on, which is less to do with affixes and the fact that it is both horizontal and you could gear swap).

    So I'm not saying she didn't have issues, I'm just suggesting a major portion of those issues probably came from that you can gear swap and there was a big wall of horizontal content. So you want one staff for this spell, another staff for that, this chest for swiping with your sword, these for TP, etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
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    I did play WoW a bit, what I saw was "whoever had the biggest boot would win" lol. WoW wasn't hard content wise imo but I didn't play it long. ff14 my first long term mmo.

    meta over choice tends to happen most. People need to accept it and realize there is no choice. Play OW sometime... you will be cussed out and reported if you use the less played heros.
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    So people raze Hell because the diadem weapons are a higher ilv.... and think they are right and that Yoshida doesn't understand.

    Yosida says the lower ilv Anima is better due to control of stats... and he thinks he is right and the players don't understand.

    Perfect fix!!! NERF THE HELL OUT OF ALL THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS!!!!

    New gear drops for 4.1 guys, "Tank Gear 4.1" <- (Actual name of the gear.)
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    Meh would like to see what they really are up to with stats than some empty words

    Edit: Although I'm still shocked that no1 asked him why he lied on zurvan's difficulty
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    Y'know, thinking about it, them simplifying stats may well be a boon for something like horizontal progression.

    Right now, there'll always be gear that has what basically amounts to "Junk Stats", causing there to be an undeniable BiS setup. But since they'll certainly still have the same spread of options for acquiring gear: tomes, raids, dungeons, etc., simplifying the distribution of stats may well make contemporary gear more equally viable.
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    Last edited by ZhaneX; 03-19-2017 at 11:48 AM.

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    They think gear is already too complicated??? Speaks volumes about their view of the average intelligence of their player base. Then again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    They think gear is already too complicated??? Speaks volumes about their view of the average intelligence of their player base. Then again.....
    When I used to be on Gilgamesh I've seen players think they can take 1000 needles from a Cactuar thinking it's just the name of the abililty.
    "woooow that mob is OP!" Can't even get mad, I'm just here for the ride.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 03-19-2017 at 11:55 AM.
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    When I used to be on Gilgamesh I've seen players think they can take 1000 needles from a Cactuar thinking it's just the name of the abililty.
    "woooow that mob is OP!" Can't even get mad, I'm just here for the ride.
    Watching that will never stop being funny. xD It's also one of the fastest ways to get an idea of if someone is new to Final Fantasy in general.
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    I'm just going to take a quick moment to express my joy that the dream of Ishgardian Housing is not quite dead just yet.
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    These interviews gives me very little reason to continue healing roulettes.
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