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    Personally the thing that turned me onto this theory the most is something that I don't see brought up very often.

    When doing the Zodiac Weapon Quests back in 2.X, as we conduct research into the Zodiac Weapons and the Zodiac Braves that used them, a point is made that such Legendary Heroes have been noted as appearing throughout history during times of great strife, with the Warriors of Light evidently being the latest incarnation of such. The idea of cyclical appearances, almost as if in response to the prayers of those who grew up on tales of such heroes, just feels very Primal-like.

    Compounded with the declarations of utter disbelief and/or outright horror from pretty well every confirmed Primal we've fought, and it certainly becomes intriguing at the very least. I really do hope to see the writers lead us down this path a bit more directly, even if just to dispell the idea in the end.
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    Is it that hard to believe that we were simply chosen by Hydaelyn? That our skills are boosted by her grace to the point where even the Primals themselves are shocked? There is enough evidence with the Sharlayans and the fact we do not drain the planets aether to outright say we are NOT primals. We are simply blessed.
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  3. #13
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    Arle Egress
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    If we were primals the Scions would know it. It would have come up by now. They have equipment to measure the gathering of aether that summons a primal.

    Like Settiesama said is it really that hard to believbe we were chosen by hydaelyn? We were given gifts that make us special, yes. Primal? No.
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  4. #14
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    Texa Yuu
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    I don't think we're primals but i figured people forgetting us was a safegaurd against us becoming primals.
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Primals aren't even Primals. For example, Titan, Ifrit, and even Bahamut are not real. They're Aetherial manifestations of an image made by faith. Basically a being or group of beings use their faith and channel it into a crystal to manifest a primal. The beastman tribes did this with Ifrit, Garuda, and so forth. Yasyle did it with Shiva, and the Allagans did it with Bahamut.

    The Warrior of Light is blessed to fulfill a task for the light when Darkness is out of balance. The Warrior of Chaos/Darkness appears when the Light is out of balance. That was pretty much explained in FFIII and has been the cornerstone of the numbered franchise (not sure if FFT, FFTA, ect have WoL/WoD).
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Primals aren't even Primals. For example, Titan, Ifrit, and even Bahamut are not real. They're Aetherial manifestations of an image made by faith.
    Bit of a side track, but I think at least some part of them is "real". Sealing them beneath Silvertear Lake or imprisoning them in Azys Lla seems to prevent them being re-summoned, which indicates at least part of them can't be replicated through belief and aether alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Bit of a side track, but I think at least some part of them is "real". Sealing them beneath Silvertear Lake or imprisoning them in Azys Lla seems to prevent them being re-summoned, which indicates at least part of them can't be replicated through belief and aether alone.
    I'm not entirely convinced that's true. Say you seal away Ifrit. The Aman'jaa see that he's sealed and 'believe' he is. So they don't bother to try and summon again. Faith is effectively broken. Could be a theory by the scions.

    You might be right though too.

    Or both theories are correct. Its just when you manifest something, it can't be 'cloned'. Like say the beastmen summon ifrit. Another tribe can't summon their copy of them.

    Or the writers haven't thought that far ahead yet
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  8. #18
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    I don't think we're primal,s... yet. But probably will become one or something similar to a primal one day. Maybe at the end, on the final confrontation with Zodiark.
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  9. #19
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    If we were a primal, we'd be actively killing Hydaelyn by draining masses of aether. I'm not sure she'd be all that eager to support us if that were the case. Truth be told, she'd probably try to choose a champion for herself to slay us so that we aren't killing her with our mere existence, benevolent or not.
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    I'm pretty sure Thordan's English translation says "what are you" simply for for dramatic effect. It isn't consistent throughout other languages (as with other parts of FFXIV). I've seen where others have stated that the translation is more akin to "Just what kind of human are you?" and similar sentiments.

    Personally I don't think there's any good reason to suspect that the Warrior of Light is a primal. The Warriors of Darkness showed us that other worlds also have their own champions, and they are not Primals either. They are just people trying to save their existence.
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