Realization: Is the WoL a primal?!

[Kiyouma]

-Spoilers of post Heavensward-


This is interesting and something I have given some thought to BUT what if the WoL is actually a primal created by the faith and prayers people had for a savior in their time of need (much like all the beast tribes right?). All primals are based on gods that have once existed but their image has been changed (Bahamut being a prime example). What if our WoL is a primal created based on the unrememberable (plot device here that explains why our character can look anyway they please) warriors of light from the calamity?

This came up because I was watching old cutscenes from heavensward to remind me of where the story left off (returning player to main scenario). Thordan asks the question "What are you..."? I dunno, late night thinking is wild.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Nah, primals would temper people, we don't have that ability. We also dont suck up aether nor do we need a supply of it to exist.

You also have to remember that the players from 1.0 ARE the WoL from before the calamity.

[Dualgunner]

Nah, primals would temper people, we don't have that ability. We also dont suck up aether nor do we need a supply of it to exist.

You also have to remember that the players from 1.0 ARE the WoL from before the calamity.

Who's to say we don't temper people? We're the most trusted people in Eorzea. Everyone trusted us almost innately. Yes, we killed gods but that can only get you so far. We're trusted more than millennium old traditions in Ishgard, more than grudges between species, more than grudges against other city state militaries.

That all said, I do have bias regarding this theory as it is my favorite theory as to what we are. Ramuh questions our mortality, as does near every primal we fight. Blessing of light they acknowledge but they're always surprised we win somehow. And then Thordan asks that all important question: Not who. But *WHAT* are we?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Who's to say we don't temper people? We're the most trusted people in Eorzea. Everyone trusted us almost innately. Yes, we killed gods but that can only get you so far. We're trusted more than millennium old traditions in Ishgard, more than grudges between species, more than grudges against other city state militaries.

That all said, I do have bias regarding this theory as it is my favorite theory as to what we are. Ramuh questions our mortality, as does near every primal we fight. Blessing of light they acknowledge but they're always surprised we win somehow. And then Thordan asks that all important question: Not who. But *WHAT* are we?

Iunno, the Syndicate doesn't seem to like us much, heck, we got put on wanted posters. I doubt anyone who had been tempered could do that :P

[Dualgunner]

Iunno, the Syndicate doesn't seem to like us much, heck, we got put on wanted posters. I doubt anyone who had been tempered could do that :P

We were on wanted posters, but there was also a distinct lack of any attempt to actually go through with it x3

Enkidoh also makes a lot of good points. Like I said though, I am biased toward this idea because it's a cool idea imo

[Felis]

Who's to say we don't temper people? We're the most trusted people in Eorzea. Everyone trusted us almost innately. Yes, we killed gods but that can only get you so far. We're trusted more than millennium old traditions in Ishgard, more than grudges between species, more than grudges against other city state militaries.

I can't remember Lolorito trusting us.

The WoL is Hydalin's champion, not primal. She gifted everyone with the echo who have heard her call "hear, see, think". Then she choosed under those who followed her call her champion.

[Beckett]

Nah, primals would temper people, we don't have that ability

You also have to remember that the players from 1.0 ARE the WoL from before the calamity.

We might temper people, and 1.0 players could have died in the calamity, only to be brought back as primals in 2.0.

We also dont suck up aether nor do we need a supply of it to exist.

This is the most damning evidence against the theory, though. Primals have a very noticeable effect on the environment simply by existing. I suppose we could be tempering our allies so fast that they aren't able to read their scanners correctly, but that seems farfetched.

I think the more likely explanation for Thordan's outburst is that we're the Hydalean version of an Ascian.

[Dualgunner]

I think the more likely explanation for Thordan's outburst is that we're the Hydalean version of an Ascian.

Would that mean we're...Antascians?! (read antacid)
*rimshot*

[Settiesama]

I think the more likely explanation for Thordan's outburst is that we're the Hydalean version of an Ascian.

The outburst was just pure shock that we beat him. It does not mean we are anything more than a mortal that was blessed by Hydaelyn. He was just so overconfident and we just blew his mind. It's actually a very common saying after a defeat from alot of media.

[Zojha]

It does not mean we are anything more than a mortal that was blessed by Hydaelyn.

And this fact is the precise reason for his words.

See also Calofisteri:"...Why do you yet stand? I have supped on the Void! What ungodly power swims in your veins?"

Powerful beings can't really fathom a mortal beating them... or even surviving their attacks.