Votekick reloaded

[LalaRu]

As long as DF is random matching, it does not need have votekick but just duty abort option, while votekick still have sense in PF, when you find out players are not what they are meant to be.

[Youkulm]

No. It's fine the way it is for a myriad of reasons that should not need to be explained.

[Serilda]

Please don't break things for everyone just because a handful of people on non-Japanese servers cannot get along with one another

[Lunaxia]

Please don't break things for everyone just because a handful of people on non-Japanese servers cannot get along with one another

"A handful" is very optimistic...

[Serilda]

Imagine if you were playing 72-man Shatter and one group got the entire match abandoned because they couldn't force a single AFKer to leave :s

"A handful" is very optimistic...

Hey, I have big hands. But more seriously, I sometimes think people on these forums are playing a completely different game to me. I'm not even particularly good but I never encounter this level of drama anywhere in my datacenter.

[Vaer]

But more seriously, I sometimes think people on these forums are playing a completely different game to me. I'm not even particularly good but I never encounter this level of drama anywhere in my datacenter.

I don't see the kick being used that often either. Most of the time when people post about being kicked the entire story isn't there. Most of the time as far as I can tell the kick is used for AFK or offline people.

[Lunaxia]

Hey, I have big hands. But more seriously, I sometimes think people on these forums are playing a completely different game to me. I'm not even particularly good but I never encounter this level of drama anywhere in my datacenter.

I'm not surprised. The differences between EU/ NA and JP are pretty big, no matter what some players may choose to believe.

[Aeeninwen_Taldel]

I can't say I agree. I've had many match parties where people have logged off. Without the vote kick, we'd have been stuck either doing it with 2 or 3 people, or leaving and having to wait 30 minutes.

[YISUG]

Please don't break things for everyone just because a handful of people on non-Japanese servers cannot get along with one another

"non-Japanese servers" what =|


this "jp data centers are better than the rest of the world" thing is getting out of hand

[Serilda]

this "jp data centers are better than the rest of the world" thing is getting out of hand

No, what's getting out of hand are these ridiculous, melodramatic demands to cripple the game in ways which are only needed because a tiny subset of one demographic apparently cannot behave like sensible human beings. Of course there are good and bad players on both eastern and western worlds. But on my server, if someone is being a jerk everyone blacklists them until they can't do any content any more and quit (or learn from their mistakes, in an ideal world). The whole party gets involved in discussing any issues which arise, and problems are resolved with zero GM effort.

According to the forums - my only frame of reference - almost every Party Finder group has trolls sneaking in to leech clears, every DF group has elitists and casuals arguing over playstyles and racing to be the first to kick one another, and everyone is miserable 100% of the time they play. Other players aren't allies; they're enemies out to ruin your gaming experience unless you backstab them before they backstab you!

Can we please, as players, start taking responsibility for our own problems for once?

This kind of kneejerk reaction has completely destroyed the fun of the Feast even in communities where the problem never existed.