Votekick reloaded

[LalaRu]

As long as DF is random matching, it does not need have votekick but just duty abort option, while votekick still have sense in PF, when you find out players are not what they are meant to be.

[Youkulm]

No. It's fine the way it is for a myriad of reasons that should not need to be explained.

[Serilda]

Please don't break things for everyone just because a handful of people on non-Japanese servers cannot get along with one another

[Carvaka]

Please don't break things for everyone just because a handful of people on non-Japanese servers cannot get along with one another

Haha This.

[Vaer]

No, there should be a way to remove problematic players without abandoning the entire instance.

[SenorPatty]

So we went from heal dps to playstyle to kicks.

This forum had more twists than a mystery movie.

[LalaRu]

No, there should be a way to remove problematic players without abandoning the entire instance.

This is the base of the problem. People go in a random matched party but they want it matched the way they like it.

Create a pug without the pug's drawbacks, has it any sense?

Then the so-called "problematic" people shows up at the start, right? Hardly I can imagine you will carry a problematic player up to the final boss, just to kick him out at that time.

If pug goes wrong, make another. Kicking people until you get all the ones you like I think it is wrong.

[Vaer]

This is the base of the problem. People go in a random matched party but they want it matched the way they like it.

Create a pug without the pug's drawbacks, has it any sense?

Then the so-called "problematic" people shows up at the start, right? Hardly I can imagine you will carry a problematic player up to the final boss, just to kick him out at that time.

If pug goes wrong, make another. Kicking people until you get all the ones you like I think it is wrong.

What if you get a troll that doesn't do anything (Look at Diadem that has no kick, people leech rewards)? Do we just leave and get a 30 minute penalty? Do we dump the party and spend another 20 minutes in queue. Sorry nope.

I'm not talking about poor performing players that are trying, I'm talking about actual trolls, leechers and general people you probably don't want to play with.

[Vidu]

This is the base of the problem. People go in a random matched party but they want it matched the way they like it.

Then the so-called "problematic" people shows up at the start, right? Hardly I can imagine you will carry a problematic player up to the final boss, just to kick him out at that time.

If pug goes wrong, make another. Kicking people until you get all the ones you like I think it is wrong.

1) Vote abort is only available after 15 minutes - so you want to carry the problematic player to the last boss and then abort the mission alltogether so that the three people who were trying to get through dont get a reward either?

2) The purpose of DF is to make sure that we all can get through our dungeons - yes, its true that you have to deal with not having full control over the people you get paired with, but that doesnt mean we should put up with everything and everyone. Why shouldnt we remove an obvious troll, a person who harrasses us, someone who makes finishing the dungeon impossible or maybe even a bot?

3) Looking at the current system we can kick some after 5 minute, but need to wait 15 minutes to abort the mission - and I can see why: Isnt it prefered to remove the person who troubles the run so the other three have a chance to finish it?

4) Abuse of the vote kick system can and should be reported

5) Premade parties dont have the kick option in the first place (funny enough that you dont know that...) and cant recruite new members either while in the duty (unless they changed that since a friend of mine had to rush his friend to the hospital and we were waiting for the autokick because he left his character in the dungeon - just to discover that we cant search for a replacement). So if you're in a PF, you'll have to leave the dungeon anyways to find someone new.

If you want to play how you want - why not look for 3 friends who will tolerate that and go into a dungeon with them?

TLDR.: No, dont remove the kick function, its very useful when used correctly

I'm also curious now why OP is so salty about it and why they've possibly be kicked so many times they want to take our tool to remove trolls, bots and people who endanger our runs away...

[Lunaxia]

Please don't break things for everyone just because a handful of people on non-Japanese servers cannot get along with one another

"A handful" is very optimistic...