Do we want another primal ally?

[Eloah]

Okay so, with Stormblood coming soon people are speculating about all sorts of things. One being whether we will have another surprise like Knights of the Round, with Yojinbo, given the expansions eastern influence. Now the most common belief is that the new main villian Zenos Yae Galvus will become him, but what if we get a new ally like Ysayle. Shiva so far has been the only primal to become our ally, it would be interesting to see it happen again. The most likely candidate is Gosetsu, the new samurai npc. The only issue with the theory is how one becomes a primal. Thordan became one out of lust for power and control, and while Ysayle wanted to bring peace she too desired power. We have yet to meet Gosetsu, but will he want for power in some form or could becoming a primal be forced on someone?

What do you guys think which, if either could happen, would you prefer?

[Stormfur]

I want Doomtrain as my primal ally.

[ShinMetsu]

Isn't Nidhogg Estinien coming with us?

[Shougun]

Yeah I think they're pretty cool Also you said Shiva was our only ally but Ramuh is pretty close right? Perhaps helpful neutral?

Or are you explicitly referring to people becoming/being inhabited by primals?

I think Yojimbo has high chance of being a similar entity, especially as the fighting/receiving something from you before helping you feels like a good theme for him. Could always consider some lore like Odin has with his sword, maybe even Ramuh + Odin lore - some weird slow primal tempering happening to Gosetsu as he wields a primal blade (or could use the cure all echo but yeah :P).

Sort of a related tangent but back when all the stuff was going down in Ul'Dah perhaps they could have done something with Nanamo. As for the destruction I hope it isn't done, some destruction can give us an excuse to finally move an aetherpoint near the market boards and not between a loading screen lol (although feels entirely out of focus to the story now). Was also hoping to see more of the old sister Ul'dah city that was sealed and maybe not destroyed :3, magical underground city~

If Nanamo falls maybe interesting to see a bunch of citizens inappropriately raise/embody her with a primal. The only issue I have with people being primal bearers is at the level everyone does it at is still bad.. cool you have all that power but you're still doing bad things for everyone lol (Ysayle ally better than being enemy, but still like dropping a nuke off). Perhaps if they could tone it down a bit so its bad for the person but less of an issue for everyone living on the planet :P.

[Eloah]

Isn't Nidhogg Estinien coming with us?

Niddy isn't a primal, regardless of Estinien joining us or not

Also you said Shiva was our only ally but Ramuh is pretty close right? Perhaps helpful neutral?

isn't ramuh technically on our side since he doesn't want war just peace? Also while not a primal what about Gilgamesh he follows us around thou viva hildy but they did say he might show up as well in SB

Ramuh isn't really our ally, he just agrees with our stance, since he isn't an "evil" primal; and really only Garuda and Ifrit would be classified as evil, the other primals have "justification" for their actions.

But anyway, in regards to Shiva; she is different from the other primals, since she was created from a corporeal form, not just aether. So unlike other primals, she is able to travel with us, safely, as she did during Heavensward.

And please no one say anything about we don't travel with Shiva we travel with Ysayle, they are the same person. She even transforms into Shiva to help us out, twice.

[Reaperking386]

yojimbo for stormblood please? This expac is practically crying for him.

[Cylestea]

isn't ramuh technically on our side since he doesn't want war just peace? Also while not a primal what about Gilgamesh he follows us around thou viva hildy but they did say he might show up as well in SB

[Atlaworks]

Wasn't Yojimbo the primal that was just Fat Odin?

If I want a primal ally, Jumbo Cactuar plz.

[Shougun]

Wasn't Yojimbo the primal that was just Fat Odin?

If I want a primal ally, Jumbo Cactuar plz.

Are you thinking of Lord of the Revel - Susano ?

Also, omg... I can imagine a Cactuar primal fight.. Needle (bullet) hell lol! Jumbo Cactuar begins to cast ten million needles, party vote abandons duty.

Unless I missed some lore on the GS Cactuar perhaps it would make sense they could be a beast tribe. 4.5 content?

[Atlaworks]

Are you thinking of Lord of the Revel - Susano ?

Oh yeah, that'd be Fat Odin there. Thanks.