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    A 100% YES!

    Finally he at least said that its possible..so there should be no excuse anymore about not doing it. Still sad that this is such a low priority for them..I mean Glamour is a really big part of the game and they introduce more and more glamour with each patch and expansion. Yet thanks to the restriction of the inventory people can barely show their respect for the time and money that went into a glamour item.

    With a glamour log we would have more inventory for mats and other things and at the same time this might be an incentive to run older content.

    Maybe its not such a high priority since this might mean that some people will not need further paid retainers anymore ...I just hope that this will not end in the cash shop too somewhere in the future..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    So pardon me for sounding pushy, but what exactly is this other purpose you had in mind?
    Current system: If you want to keep glamouring something, you can't use it for seals or desynthesis without reobtaining it.
    New system as proposed by the community: If you want to keep glamouring something, you can't use it for seals or desynthesis without reobtaining it.
    Your version: You should be able to keep glamouring something and use it for seals or desynthesis without reobtaining it.

    You're asking for more than we are, so the request is less likely to be approved. That's all there is to it. Of course I'd like to be able to use the item for a bunch of different things and keep it for glamour too, but I don't want to push our luck here. I want the log first and foremost; extra benefits are a distant bonus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Maybe its not such a high priority since this might mean that some people will not need further paid retainers anymore ...I just hope that this will not end in the cash shop too somewhere in the future..
    Shh, let's keep saying it will probably increase cash shop purchases from people who want extra items for their glamour log. That's incentive enough for them already! It will also increase interest in the commercial glamour photo books they publish in Japan...
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    I'm very much in support of this. It's something that should have been added a long time ago.

    For me this was by far the most surprising answer we got from all the PAX East stuff, given how reticent they've been to do it the past:

    1:48:57
    Q: Are there any plans to add a feature where any item you obtain once is recorded in some sort of a directory, and even if you get rid of that equipment, you can use a glamour prism on anything in the directory? With a feature like this, users could create a lot more room in their inventories.

    A: Yoshida: If that were possible, it would be easier to just increase inventory space. Every player would have to acquire item obtainment information data, which would be very difficult.
    Nice to see that they're finally starting to come around on it.
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    I'm fine with an item being destroyed to go in the glamour log. You get one use out of the item: Wear it, DE it, turn it into materia, sell it, trade it for seals or put it in the glamour system. The only thing I think should be different is something like relics where each phase you complete should be automatically added to the log.
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    Would for sure solve alot of inventory issues.
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    Honestly, I'd love it. would prevent me from having to keep my outdated gear just to keep my top hat and gentleman's outfit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Current system: If you want to keep glamouring something, you can't use it for seals or desynthesis without reobtaining it.
    New system as proposed by the community: If you want to keep glamouring something, you can't use it for seals or desynthesis without reobtaining it.
    Your version: You should be able to keep glamouring something and use it for seals or desynthesis without reobtaining it.

    You're asking for more than we are, so the request is less likely to be approved. That's all there is to it. Of course I'd like to be able to use the item for a bunch of different things and keep it for glamour too, but I don't want to push our luck here. I want the log first and foremost; extra benefits are a distant bonus.
    Current system: I glamour gear A onto gear B, gear A will be binded to me so I can't sell it on MB, I can still desync/hand in/vendor gear A. After I desync/hand in/vendor gear A, I can't glamour it again.

    My version: I add gear A to glamour log, gear A will be binded to me so I can't sell it on MB, I can still desync/hand in/vendor gear A. After I desync/hand in/vendor gear A, I can glamour it again... because that's the whole point of a glamour log?



    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    I'll explain why the item being destroyed is a bad idea. Say you already have an alex weapon and you're working on a relic for glamour. So if you want to glamour stage X of relic onto your alex weapon, it will destroy your relic weapon in the process of adding it to the glamour log. Then what happen when the next stage of relic update is release? Are you going to work on the relic from scratch again? Granted things are better now that replica relic is a thing, but do note that it only gives you up to stage X-1 of the relic. So what's next? You're going to wait til the next relic update patch to be release before you will glamour it? Doesn't that sound ridiculous?
    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    If it's the latter than the benefit from allowing players to hand-in/vendor the glamour gear after adding it to the log is so minuscule that it barely make any difference.
    I explain why it's a bad idea for the item to be destroyed when added to log. I also mentioned that letting players to desync/hand in the items barely make any difference. Think about it honestly, because:

    A) We can already glamour then desync/hand in the gear now, so the proposed system I suggested just changed it to adding to the log first, no additional work (besides the log itself) is required.

    B) Practically speaking, if you got the gear for glamour, what's the point of getting it again when you already add it to the log? If you got the gear for desync/hand in, you will still be getting it again anyway regardless if we have the glamour log or not.

    C) HW is already raining us with seals and gils. This one time surged in seals/vendor gils when you first add the item to the glamour log won't lead to Ragnarok seriously...

    D) If the developer team have to account for every new item added (and one time loop through for existing item) so upgradeable gear (relic/tome gear) have to be filter as a non-destroyedable item upon adding onto the log, that's additional workload as compared to what I suggested no matter how you slice it. If every item is destroyed upon adding it to the glamour log, please refer to above for why it's a bad reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    New system as proposed by the community:
    And lastly... I'm not sure if I missed reading something or what, but I'm pretty sure that's an overstatement. Most people just agree on wanting a glamour log, barely anyone voiced about agreeing/disagreeing on the destruction of item upon adding to glamour log besides ShinMetsu, Zojha, Dusty and the both of us at time of writing.
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    Last edited by SokiYagami; 03-16-2017 at 02:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    And lastly... I'm not sure if I missed reading something or what, but I'm pretty sure that's an overstatement. Most people just agree on wanting a glamour log, barely anyone voiced about agreeing/disagreeing on the destruction of item upon adding to glamour log besides ShinMetsu, Zojha, Dusty and the both of us at time of writing.
    Honestly I don't think it matters either way. I think the destruction of the item for infinite glamourability is a fair trade, but in the end if the dev team ever does make a glamour system they're going to make it however their team decides and we won't have a say in the matter. *pushes face to the screen* But make it happen dev team (please!)!
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    Consider this petition signed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Honestly I don't think it matters either way. I think the destruction of the item for infinite glamourability is a fair trade, but in the end if the dev team ever does make a glamour system they're going to make it however their team decides and we won't have a say in the matter. *pushes face to the screen* But make it happen dev team (please!)!
    I imagine they would have some system where gear became soulbound to you to get it in the log. Regardless It seems both parties actually want the log one way or another.
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