A suggestion to improve Matron of the Fury

[Meirii]

The problem is if you miss the portal you have to wait until mission is complete to rejoin your party. Thus as to why I hate this revamping.

I'm talking about people leeching when there are no EM up, just sitting at the spawn point being useless, if an EM popped everyone would be running to it.

[Lambdafish]

I'm talking about people leeching when there are no EM up, just sitting at the spawn point being useless, if an EM popped everyone would be running to it.

I understand your sentiment but i also understand the counterargument. Dragorian is saying that if you miss the portal, or miss a fate or do anything that isn't with the parties plan that they haven't told you, vote kick.

[Meirii]

I understand your sentiment but i also understand the counterargument. Dragorian is saying that if you miss the portal, or miss a fate or do anything that isn't with the parties plan that they haven't told you, vote kick.

I'm not talking about kiddo's flying around or turning in things, my issue is with the peeps who never move.

[Lambdafish]

I'm not talking about kiddo's flying around or turning in things, my issue is with the peeps who never move.

But the system can't tell the difference, I can see people getting kicked for both. The open ended nature of diadem means that people will go in different directions, and you could get kicked for not doing someone elses plan.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

But the system can't tell the difference, I can see people getting kicked for both. The open ended nature of diadem means that people will go in different directions, and you could get kicked for not doing someone elses plan.

This. ^

I say in the beginning that I intend to gather once we're done with the objectives, and once in a while you get some uppity douche that gets all sensitive about "abandoning the party" because they wanted to grind more fates. :P Like dude, I'm drowning in Lockbox gear, I've got the mount and most of the boss minions, why should I waste my time? I have no doubt that these people would have kicked me if they could have, despite the fact that I helped complete the teamwork part of the instance. :P

[Airget]

This. ^

I say in the beginning that I intend to gather once we're done with the objectives, and once in a while you get some uppity douche that gets all sensitive about "abandoning the party" because they wanted to grind more fates. :P Like dude, I'm drowning in Lockbox gear, I've got the mount and most of the boss minions, why should I waste my time? I have no doubt that these people would have kicked me if they could have, despite the fact that I helped complete the teamwork part of the instance. :P

Ya, in this sense, there isn't good incentive to do FATEs because the reward is very similar. I get why people leave after 30 mins, because you can get lockboxes quicker by just completing the objective again, so there is no point in staying.

In terms of minions there are 5 bosses + the other mini-boss we currently know about which drop the following:

Windup Aldgoat which can also be crafted

Windup Leviathan which can also be crafted

Hunting Hawk which is unique to Diadem but can also come from gold chest

Pegasus Colt 50 bronze coins which is a joke to get now

Paissa Brat which comes from Dragonskin Maps

Baby Brachiosaur which I think is the only new minion.

But this is what bugs me, why are the aldgoat and levi dropped here? I don't understand the logic of Leviathan dropping here to me those two are just lazy rewards. No joke, I would of put Assassin Fry instead of Levi and heck Dwarf Rabbit instead of Aldgoat cause let's be serious, that FATE is rather troublesome compared to the other 3 and yet the easiest of the 4 lower ones has the best minion drop, Hunting Hawk. . that just makes no sense lol.

Though honestly, it would of bugged me less if maybe the 4 lower FATEs has 3 variety of minions, a common one, uncommon and a rare one. The above could of been common, uncommon could of been something interesting and rare could of been interesting. or maybe even just 2 minion drops, but when the FATE drop from these are just rehashed older minions it just makes them disappointing. Because you want to fight these FATE bosses in hopes of obtaining something new, and then you are rewarded by minions which have been out for months and aren't even that tough to get in the first place.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

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All very good points! Dwarf Rabbit and Assassin Fry would have been amazing. <3

tbh I sometimes do continue doing fates with the party, but only if they're people I enjoyed playing with. Most parties are just dead silent, and suck at working together (nothing worse than the impatient DPS that keep wiping the group 'cause they wanna pull everything in sight and think we're running unsynced 50 content), so hashing out some sort of coordination is painful even for the missions. :/ I just don't feel the need to intentionally inflict more of that on myself LOL.