Cleric Stance Discussion - Is it needed?

[Ririta]

I'm not a fan of how Cleric Stance works currently. I mean, that would be like if tanks couldn't tank with their DPS stance on.

Cleric Stances should stay, stance swapping is fun. But it should be less punishing.

[Faliandra]

Cleric Stances should stay, stance swapping is fun. But it should be less punishing.

CS used to have a recast timer of 12 seconds, and they did decrease it to 5 seconds, which IMO was a very encouraging step towards healers wanting to dps
but scared to mess up....cos 12 seconds is a loooong time. Sometimes, even 5 secs can be. Maybe they could decrease it some more so you can swap anytime?

[Ultimatecalibur]

CS used to have a recast timer of 12 seconds, and they did decrease it to 5 seconds, which IMO was a very encouraging step towards healers wanting to dps
but scared to mess up....cos 12 seconds is a loooong time. Sometimes, even 5 secs can be. Maybe they could decrease it some more so you can swap anytime?

They decreased the cooldown not to get healers to dps but to lessen the punishment caused by the post-50 split of DoM gear into Casting and Healing. A minor but significant penalty of 20 main stat for 12s at level 32 when leveling became a major penalty of 221 at i90 when when DoM gear split in Healing and Casting post-50.

[Faliandra]

They decreased the cooldown not to get healers to dps but to lessen the punishment caused by the post-50 split of DoM gear into Casting and Healing. A minor but significant penalty of 20 main stat for 12s at level 32 when leveling became a major penalty of 221 at i90 when when DoM gear split in Healing and Casting post-50.

i never stated that it was changed SO that healers dps more, i said it was a very encouraging step for it. Purpose or not, it sure helped ME starting to manage my stance dancing (12 secs is pretty frightening when youre still a new player)

[Grimr]

As a healer i barely use Cleric stance outside of soloing. I don't use it at all inside the dungeons simply because if tanks takes critical dmg and I'm in cleric stance that tank is dead. If i dps it is when the tank is stable but i won't use cleric stance to dps. I absolutely hate it when healers use cleric stance and "attempt" to heal my tank. They can not. Even with cleric stance the dps doesn't compare to my blm.

[Lexia]

Even with cleric stance the dps doesn't compare to my blm.

That why I call a healer (mainly whm) a second class blm when they dpsing.

[Clethoria]

As someone aiming for WHM, I use it all the time in PotD when healing is at lowest priority or PvE and I'd rather kill the mob over healing myself.