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    Kitfox's Avatar
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarLunatic View Post
    I can say it does work for me and allows me to get out more dps are a tank.
    Do you have data to back this up?

    Don't make claims like this if it's only based on subjective feeling. You need to compare the actual increase in mana regen to the DPS gains from lost secondary stats. Before you do, your words mean nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    It increases max mp, because of dark side you have 0 natural regen.
    This is incorrect. You do have natural mana regen with Darkside up. However, outside sources have no effect on you, such as Ballad or Mana Turret. You can test this by putting up Darkside and comparing how your mana behaves in and out of battle. In battle your natural regen is lower and you will lose MP, however, outside battle you will actually gain MP as the regen is stronger.
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    Last edited by Kitfox; 03-14-2017 at 06:37 AM.

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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Do you have data to back this up?

    Don't make claims like this if it's only based on subjective feeling. You need to compare the actual increase in mana regen to the DPS gains from lost secondary stats. Before you do, your words mean nothing.
    Also darkside scales off of your total MP so it doesn't matter if you have more or not it won't make any difference, you'd just be purposefully gimping yourself.
    Edit: Nvm i'm wrong it scales by level, though having slightly more MP still doesn't make up for all the dps loss.
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    Last edited by Medicine; 03-14-2017 at 06:36 AM.

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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    For myself (because I had to check), he's not trolling, unless he's playing the joke hard enough to actually make this set:

    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/15333752/

    Mostly all PIE V's, couple of 4's, assuming limit was reached.

    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    Go for it, just means your going to get a lot of hate.
    But that's the tank's job!
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarLunatic View Post
    So what does the community think about this way of tank for Dark Knight`s.
    The community thinks its bad - guess you werent after an honest opinion though, maybe you should have made that more clear...
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    Yves Chevalier
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    Jenova is Primal DC, right?


    Aether Server....
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    From what I remember off the top of my head, 1 piety give likes 7 MP? Meaning 77 MP per rank V materia, 16 slots can have rank V materia, meaning that's about 1232 extra MP, possibly an extra 154 MP if you have it on your weapon's two slots (If it has them).
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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    From what I remember off the top of my head, 1 piety give likes 7 MP? Meaning 77 MP per rank V materia, 16 slots can have rank V materia, meaning that's about 1232 extra MP, possibly an extra 154 MP if you have it on your weapon's two slots (If it has them).
    Which is almost 1 extra dark arts at the cost of a ton of damage and health...
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    Last edited by Medicine; 03-14-2017 at 07:08 AM.

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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    I am reminded of how upset people get when they see a relic built with bad subsets.

    Edit: Well upset's too strong a term. More like when I've seen bad relic weapon allocations posted to provoke a reaction.
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    Last edited by Moomba33; 03-14-2017 at 07:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    I am reminded of how upset people get when they see a relic built with bad subsets.

    Edit: Well upset's too strong a term. More like when I've seen bad relic weapon allocations posted to provoke a reaction.
    Saw a paladin with lots of parry on his relic recently... I wanted to cry...
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    Which is 1 extra dark arts at the cost of a ton of damage and health...
    I'm sorry I don't understand, I'm just a simple chocobo. Kewh.
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