Has anyone else noticed Yoshi's attatude at PAX?

[Shougun]

Re: about Japanese criticism of the game earlier. I went through 2ch for a while and found a good summary of complaints from their PoV of things, I'll do my best to translate up to 63 (my Japanese is horrible I really just know how to find stuff). I'm subbing out gisgis with salt where it comes up because the terms are more or less the same. I'm leaving the ones I don't know how to approach in Japanese. Here's a straight google translate of the full list for those interested. Please note, I do not agree with all of these ^ ^u don't shoot the messenger

1. The promotional materials and ads were misleading
2. The back of the PS3 version case was originally misleading
3. FFなのにWoWとRIFTを何の工夫もせず上辺だけ劣化パクリ&改悪問題
4. The battles are boring as a beginner.
5. The eSports elements that they try to push aren't acceptable in Japan
6. Lack of content
7. The concept of item levels and the illusion of choice
8. Underlying cancer called GCD (Global Cool-Down)
9. Nothing is really rare. The markets are not functioning as intended and it's impossible to sell things.
10. The FATEs are crude
11. Handling of crafters and gatherers (I'm assuming ギャザクラ is a contraction of crafters and gatherers)
12. Weekly restrictions
13. Inflation ( デノミ is Japanese slang for inflation)
14. Raids- Godawful endgame
15. Duty Finder
16. 皆無に近いオリジナル要素、場面に合わない背景音楽
17. The loot system
18. "Novice Network" isn't aimed at novices
19. 対人関連 (I think it means avoidance of interaction? Linked Jisho)
20. Alliance raid
21. Housing
22. Structural problem caused by the expansion
23. 2.5秒おきにきめられたボタンをおすだけ。爽快感はない。
24. You aren't really fighting the enemies you're doing line gimmicks on the floor
25. 歴代FFのようなサポートアビリティやサポートジョブ、そんなビルド要素はない
26. 使いまわしモーション。目に痛いエフェクト。何をしてるのかわからないマスゲーム。意味
27. Not enough distinguishing traits between movement in races
28. Some skills do not work properly. It's taking longer and longer to do a "rotation" to reach maximum dps
29. Even though there are a variety of skills, many lack distinguishing features
30. 範囲攻撃と単品攻撃のバランスをとれないからいつも範囲攻撃連打か単品攻撃連打になる
31. You can only ever use skills and combos in one order if you want to achieve "maximum dps"
32. Upon meeting your exp target there's really no reason to do FATEs
33. The forced inclusion of FATEs in the Zodiac and Relic quests
34. ギャザクラは河本のせい (I THINK it says the DoH/DoH woes are Nobuaki Komoto's fault)
35. マイスター専用レシピにより、アーマリーシステムという自己完結プレイは不可能に (something about how the armories aren't implemented very well???)
36. Crafter specialization skills are useless
37. Locking new recipes to crafter specializations only even though you can still see them
38. "The strongest weapon ever" is temporary
39. Lack of rationality to level crafters and gatherers after expansion
40. The top perk to leveling them was materia melding, but then they added npcs that can meld
41. Weekly limit to token acquisition
42. Having to wipe to reset cooldowns
43. I did not feel a sense of accomplishment upon clearing I only felt exhausted
44. そうさせるだけの理不尽なギミック (really vague)
45. The true challenge in a boss fight is never the boss, it's the other party members
46. ​​Ineligible development which is being tested in an invincible state after every phase
47. We are implementing a few end content with adjustment in a sweet state
48. It's really difficult to learn new fight mechanics without voice chat
49. Duty Finder doesn't ding
50. MMORPG no longer
51. Close to none of the original elements remain
52. Background music not suitable for the scene
53. You can only clear once a week for 2 drops, but it's an 8 person party
54. 無駄なまでにクリアするのが面倒なコンテンツ程、報酬が良い ( I think this could be about the same as "lack of horizontal progression")
55. Dine and dash players (not stopping to say hello and goodbye)
56. 運の悪い者は永遠に手にいられない。
57. Even if you clear people will still be salty about the clear
58. FF XIV wasn't designed with pvp in mind
59. Some battles rely on whether or not you have someone a specific job in your party for a clear
60. There is no countermeasure against communication lag at all
61. Medium housing costs too much for what you're getting
62. The small houses are way to narrow inside
63. Automatic removal of housing

Hey mate, I think it's interesting to know what our other Eorzean family is thinking about and nice to know because they have a much closer line to the devs (whatever they talk about is more likely to be heard, I imagine).

But I think this would fit excellently in a thread like this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...houghts-corner

Not sure if you'll get the replies in context of what you want in this sort of thread talking about Yoshida haha

I wonder what Japanese would think about WildStar Housing if they were given a crash course video on it.. if they would think similarly about the system thing. Sounds like those who have full servers agree there is not enough and that they also think housing is small. (Wildstar = larger than the largest house AND everyone gets one). Like this video: https://youtu.be/YlP8ShpFZII?t=29s (I'll take any chance to push SE into making stuff bigger, more customize-able, and accessible lol.. as my dreams are filled with random FF housing designs XD).

Also thanks for taking the time to share

[Texa]

Hey mate, I think it's interesting to know what our other Eorzean family is thinking about and nice to know because they have a much closer line to the devs (whatever they talk about is more likely to be heard, I imagine).

But I think this would fit excellently in a thread liek this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...houghts-corner

Not sure if you'll get the replies in context of what you want in this sort of thread talking about Yoshida haha

I never noticed that thread before : O . I was only bringing it up because other posters mentioned jp opinions about the dev team and yoshi. I apologize for getting off-topic.

[Aquaslash]

It's a video game that is supposed to be fun and not a job seriously comments like yours seriously make me laugh.

If you are defending the idea that the lazy should be rewarded equally to the hardworking, then I am embarrassed to be sharing a server with you

[Lambdafish]

If you are defending the idea that the lazy should be rewarded equally to the hardworking, then I am embarrassed to be sharing a server with you

Not only that, he is fundamentally wrong. Videogames are supposed to be fun and rewarding. This game is lacking in one of those areas.

[Ririta]

Yes, it is. Experiencing the story is a big incentive for people. With Alex normal, lots of people have stopped improving their skills since it's not necessary anymore.

Players' skills are the same, actually, I think that normal mode content is harder than in ARR. What made people worse was the new spells and rotations, HW requires much more dexterity to play.

As for gating, in my opinion there's no better gating than what we have now. People can get an idea of how a boss plays like without the compromise of Coil. Finding practice parties or novice groups in Coil wasn't easy, luckily I got a static quickly.

[Jingai]

After reading over every post in this thread, through all pages currently up, the only thing I can discern is that far too many players are acting like petulant children. We're suppose to be a community of players brought together through a love of Final Fantasy. Instead, people are at one another's throats over the dumbest of things.

Is the game perfect? Of course not. There is no such thing. That's why it's a living world. It's always going to be under constant change and development. Some changes will work, some won't. Some will fix old issues, some will create new ones. What we're suppose to do is give constructive criticism that the Dev's can listen to and reply to....but too many of us don't do that. Instead we bark, and we yell and we act spoiled, entitled. "How DARE they make mistakes!" "FIX THIS NOW!!" Instead of acting selfish, we should all just be thankful we even have a XIV to play in the first place.

They give up so much of their own lives just for us to have Hydaelyn to run about in. The least we can do is appreciate that. They could just abandon it entirely and shut it all down. Its' almost what we deserve for acting the way we do towards both the Developers and each other.

In regards to this whole civil war between "Casuals and Elites", it's become redundant. I'm one of those "Lazy Casuals" one of the previous posters referred to. I'm not here yelling about some new, all powerful weapon, begging to be on the same par as them. I take my time and I enjoy my life in Eorzea. IF there is something I really want, I DO work for it, but I am just not one of those who is so professional in how I play my character that I can't stop and enjoy the scenery, or just enjoy being IG for the sake of being there. I have the friends and family I have now thanks to this wonderful world we exist in together.

That said, I respect the skills of those more devoted to intense hardcore adventuring. Enjoy that weapon, you earned it. There's no need to insult those who aren't "at your level" though. Not every casual demands something for nothing. MANY of us just have our own way of enjoying the world. Just as many of us respect the Elites for what they are capable of. It's really all a matter of "to each his own." I don't think I deserve any less respect just because I'm a casual. I'm certainly NOT lazy. I work my butt off for those in my FC Family. I do everything I can for them and I'm glad they do the same for me. My FC is full of both Casuals and Elites. We don't see each other as one type or another. We're just one family, surviving together in the same world. As it should be.

Honestly, all this in fighting is just so pointless. Yoshi-P and his team work hard. Not everything they do is going to work all the time, but they still get up, despite the pettiness, the bickering, the whining, and they keep giving us more XIV. For that, I applaud them. Personally, I think too many have lost sight of what XIV's about...and that's the real shame.

Sorry for the long post. I don't reply here often. I just felt for once, I needed to get my thoughts out.

[Texa]

After reading over every post in this thread, through all pages currently up, the only thing I can discern is that far too many players are acting like petulant children.

Welcome to FF XIV ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[A_Hortensia]

This game is lacking in one of those areas.

The suspense is killing me!

Is it not fun, or is it not rewarding?

If you are defending the idea that the lazy should be rewarded equally to the hardworking, then I am embarrassed to be sharing a server with you

Because everyone knows that Cactaur is hardcore baby!
Just thinking about it gets me on pins and needles.

Welcome to FF XIV ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Which is funny because everyone that unsubbed over the i280 weapons is now on the forums to do their daily posts roulette.
This is the new FFXIV.

[Shougun]

I never noticed that thread before : O . I was only bringing it up because other posters mentioned jp opinions about the dev team and yoshi. I apologize for getting off-topic.

Oh well I was thinking more that you took the time to gather it so might as well add it to a thread dedicated to it. Already a lot off tangential posts here so it wasn't meant to be a finger wave and tell you stop as much as I was thinking it could be catalogued and referenced nicely in threads dedicated to it, since you were taking time to do it . If I respond too much to a point made in your post we'd be well on our way to off Yoshida and stress lol. Purposely derailing is bad but side stuff always happens a little, didn't mean to be like "No, bad!" Lol

Just wanted to see it move to an area open to better less derailed discussion, because it's interesting.

[Aquaslash]

The suspense is killing me!

Is it not fun, or is it not rewarding?



Because everyone knows that Cactaur is hardcore baby!
Just thinking about it gets me on pins and needles.



Which is funny because everyone that unsubbed over the i280 weapons is now on the forums to do their daily posts roulette.
This is the new FFXIV.

Consider the following, memester:
What if it wasn't about casual vs. hardcore, but a matter of principle? If the lazy are gonna be given better rewards than those who try, then what is the point of trying?

Why should I bother even playing the raids if I can play dead in a fate and get better stuff? It can't be for fun because Alexander Savage has been the opposite of that from start to finish. Why bother doing the relic when not only was the grind completely dull until the final two steps, but Longinus ended up being way better looking then Areadbhar?

If I wanted an endgame controlled by RNG, I'd still be playing Destiny