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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Automedius View Post
    Father Yoshi: Why are you crying, my dear children?

    Crying Children: The new Bahamauht toy you gave us is too easy to beat up! Give us a better toy!

    Father Yoshi: This new toy I gotten you boys and girls should be much more harder to destroy..

    Crying Children: Alexander? What a dumb name! This is too hard!

    Father Yoshi: *puts gun to his head*

    Crying Children: We want more toys! We want a blue Mage Halloween costume! We want-

    *pulls trigger*
    You forgot to include the part where Yoshi admitted they didn't test the raid properly and tried to take shortcuts, hence leading to a badly designed/tuned content. Never mind the fact Gordias ended up being harder than they said it actually would be (again, due to not even testing the raid properly), but don't let the facts get in the way of this tired fallacy people keep bringing up to defend the devs poor decision making.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Automedius View Post

    Crying Children: We want more toys! We want a blue Mage Halloween costume! We want-
    You forgot Overlord Wife glaring from the shadows to monitor what he says.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Automedius View Post
    Father Yoshi: Why are you crying, my dear children?

    Crying Children: The new Bahamauht toy you gave us is too easy to beat up! Give us a better toy!

    Father Yoshi: This new toy I gotten you boys and girls should be much more harder to destroy..

    Crying Children: Alexander? What a dumb name! This is too hard!

    Father Yoshi: *puts gun to his head*

    Crying Children: We want more toys! We want a blue Mage Halloween costume! We want-

    *pulls trigger*
    Instead of making 3 raid models they made 2 extreme models, that offers NOTHING and rightfully so people will complain about it. They should have had story mode with no rewards other than story, normal(coil difficulty) for MAJORITY of the player base with regular rewards as we have now and savage mode which would have been what Gordias was for the people who really wanted that type of difficulty.

    They can't say that there team is too small or they don't have budget but then go and make a huge change to raiding tiers like that. If they didn't have the funds they should have left it as it what like ARR instead of completely screwing over half the player base to please the people who didn't want to take the time or effort for Coil.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    They should have had story mode with no rewards other than story
    At that point, you can just use an NPC that will tell you the story and reenact the cutscenes. It would be a fun and blatant easy mode mockery
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    If they didn't have the funds they should have left it as it what like ARR instead of completely screwing over half the player base to please the people who didn't want to take the time or effort for Coil.
    Mhm...last I checked Coil had, like, a 16% clear rate on the top JP and like a 4% clear rate on the top EU/NA servers. It doesn't seem like "over half the playerbase" got screwed in that deal truth be told.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Mhm...last I checked Coil had, like, a 16% clear rate on the top JP and like a 4% clear rate on the top EU/NA servers. It doesn't seem like "over half the playerbase" got screwed in that deal truth be told.
    So making 2 extremes is the best solution? Yea thats a great way to change raiding!!!
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    You forgot to include the part where Yoshi admitted they didn't test the raid properly and tried to take shortcuts, hence leading to a badly designed/tuned content. Never mind the fact Gordias ended up being harder than they said it actually would be (again, due to not even testing the raid properly), but don't let the facts get in the way of this tired fallacy people keep bringing up to defend the devs poor decision making.
    Don't get me wrong, This development team has made some very stupid, and I mean STUPID decisions in regards to this game. Decisions that would make any western developer laugh them out of the office. However, in the case you just mentioned, you gotta remember, these developers are under strict time constraints. They probably didn't have the time to test it properly and as a result, had to take shortcuts.

    Now as much as I go on about all the bad decisions they make, they do make good ones. It's just the bad decisions tend to stick out a lot more.
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  8. #108
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    I was at PAX. It was like -8 degrees out with the windchill factor, and it was EXTREMELY crowded. I felt annoyed being there.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    At that point, you can just use an NPC that will tell you the story and reenact the cutscenes. It would be a fun and blatant easy mode mockery
    I mean if it saves time and money for people who actually want to attempt raiding then so be it. The whole point of raiding is to test yourself and the people you play with, not whine because you can't put effort into something and wait a couple months to see the story.
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  10. #110
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    There's a huge problem with FF MMOs and producers. FFXI had a few producers change hands and for better or for worse, it led to huge sweeping changes that fixed lots of problems but then new problems arose. Like FFXI having horizontal progression for a decade, then BAM, level cap increases 75-99 with all kinds of overpowered job combinations that arose from mages getting RDM's refresh/convert, etc. And don't even get me started on FFXI getting ilvl gear. Shit ruined the game balance.
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