Dps As Healer

[Vorx]

I dunno about you people.. Few years ago if anyone said they wanted to play differently then what was deemed "the right way" people would attack them left and right. Now many of you want to play Healer as a different way and its now ok?
Yet if someone readies up as say a Class rather then a Job to help with buffs like Eye For and Eye, or something its unspeakable. Crossing dangerously close to hypocrisy.

[Taika]

I dunno about you people.. Few years ago if anyone said they wanted to play differently then what was deemed "the right way" people would attack them left and right. Now many of you want to play Healer as a different way and its now ok?
Yet if someone readies up as say a Class rather then a Job to help with buffs like Eye For and Eye, or something its unspeakable. Crossing dangerously close to hypocrisy.

What are you even trying to say? Your post doesn't make any sense.

Players are always expecting everyone to play their jobs the way they're meant to be played - no matter what job. It's about the most efficient way of playing a job. The way they're meant to be played is based on the current meta, which again is based on the game design: the available abilities, the battle design etc. In current meta, healers are expected to heal and DPS, tanks are expected to switch between tank and DPS stance, DDs are expected to use certain rotations to maximise their efficiency etc.

The requirement is the same for every player and it doesn't depend on your job: use your abilities in a way that's as efficient as possible in any given situation.

[Vorx]

What are you even trying to say? Your post doesn't make any sense.

Players are always expecting everyone to play their jobs the way they're meant to be played - no matter what job. It's about the most efficient way of playing a job. The way they're meant to be played is based on the current meta, which again is based on the game design: the available abilities, the battle design etc. In current meta, healers are expected to heal and DPS, tanks are expected to switch between tank and DPS stance, DDs are expected to use certain rotations to maximise their efficiency etc.

The requirement is the same for every player and it doesn't depend on your job: use your abilities in a way that's as efficient as possible in any given situation.

one reply to this, guess the attack dogs are taking the day off..

[Raven_Darkstar]

Honestly, healers just cannot win when it comes to this dps debate. At least not until and unless, SE changes either healer jobs or game design, to solve it one way or another. It doesn't matter whether you only heal, play according to the meta, or whatever combination of healing/dpsing that is most comfortable for you; There are always going to be people who will jump on you for it.

Just play however you wish. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun. I don't know about anyone else, but playing in a particular way simply because a so-called majority thinks you should? That's not fun. And for me personally, at least when it comes to content that I don't overgear/overlevel, or am not that familiar with; either at all, or as healer, trying to dps as much or more than I heal, just turns me into a bundle of nerves. And that in turn makes it far more likely that I'll mess up, and even worse, turns the whole dungeon into a tense, fun sucking chore.

That's not to say that I never dps. Nor is there ever an instance where I do nothing but heal. Neither do I overheal. At least not my definition of overhealing. To me, overhealing is casting a heal that would take the target above %100, and thus wasting mana and needlessly generating enmity. However, it seems some people think that anything that takes them away from their precious dps time = overhealing. To which I have to wonder; if you're so into dps, why do you even play a healer?

Sorry, but these phrases: "Heal as little as possible", "Have to heal", and "forced to heal" are completely counter to the primary role of a healer. And it's just disgusting to me that so many players think that healers healing is a Bad thing. Even worse are those spiteful people who deliberately go out of thier way to make the healers job difficult out of some assumption that they are being lazy. Do you people even bother to communicate? Or do you just assume that because they aren't playing the way You think they should, that they're lazy?

Obviously, I don't support people who actually stand around doing nothing, or jump around emoting and generally being obnoxious. But seriously, enough with this nitpicky, judgemental, my way or else attitude. Much as some of you would like to, you actually can't force the entire player base to play your way. You don't want to play with the baddies? You have a votekick button. You also have the ability to run with pre-mades. There you go, problem solved. No more badddies in your precious elite groups.


TLDR - Play how you want. Nitpicky, judgy people will hate on you no matter what anyway. Might as well have some fun.

[Vorx]

Raven_Darkstar

To true..

[QuarIm]

I like to play scholar, so I get to dps a lot, and thus use CS. If the tank can not survive for a few seconds in the beginning of the fight while I get my dots out, they should learn to use their CDs. I shall have my dots out, health be damned. Now, if you see me DPSing without CS on, it is because said tank/dpsers suck and I need to be able to heal them at a moments notice. So if anyone feels the need to yell at me for not having CS on, they should yell at themselves/teammates for sucking so bad that I can not risk it. I have played WHM for a bit, and found it risky to dps. I can not shield the idiots, so they die before I can dps.

So tl;dr I will gladly dps, just stop dying while I am

[Celef]

I don't get you people, you make it looks so complicated oO
You wanna DPS ? Fine DPS as long as everyone is alive
You don't want to DPS and /chicken during the fight ? Fine, /chiken

Why is everyone so concerned about how the others play their role as long as the job is done* ? oO

(*trash / boss down)

[CorbinDallas]

I don't get you people, you make it looks so complicated oO
You wanna DPS ? Fine DPS as long as everyone is alive
You don't want to DPS and /chicken during the fight ? Fine, /chiken

Why is everyone so concerned about how the others play their role as long as the job is done* ? oO

(*trash / boss down)

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

[BCRD]

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

I agree.

SCH is my main and I enjoy helping out full-time during battle which includes a lot of DPS'ing. In addition to be baffled by the "I only heal" crowd, I'm also highly concerned that so many people actually feel comfortable bringing that type philosophy to a party setting. I would feel super uncomfortable being that lazy and expecting others to deal.

[CorbinDallas]

I agree.

SCH is my main and I enjoy helping out full-time during battle which includes a lot of DPS'ing. In addition to be baffled to the "I only heal" crowd but I'm highly concerned that so many people actually feel comfortable bringing that type philosophy to a party setting. I would feel super uncomfortable being that lazy and expecting others to deal.

I physically cringe when I see a bunch of healers standing around doing nothing, or even worse, using various AoE healing abilities during the Life Gate DPS check during Dun Scaith. I make a point of /a'ing: "Isn't it amazing how there is literally 0 damage during this phase? It's almost like everyone has time to switch to their DPS stance! "

It's not about "every healer HAS to DPS", it's about respect. Queueing for multiplayer, team oriented content, and sitting there doing the absolute bare minimum, and this goes the 1 button DPS players too, is disrespectful to everyone else in that party.