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  1. #1
    Player
    AdventZero's Avatar
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    Arianya Advensten
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 89
    Rune Fencer as a hand-and-a-half* sword using DPS job that's the other side of the coin from Red Mage.

    Red Mage: 75% magic, 25% melee. Cast spells to build up some kind of charge to use powerful melee attacks (based on my limited knowledge of the job).

    Rune Fencer: 75% melee, 25% magic. Use melee weapon skills to build up some kind of charge to use powerful spell attacks.

    This idea is based on the fact that RUN's in FFXI were basically the "I like swords" version of RDM.

    *Classify these swords as "Rune Swords" in the system for ease of identifying them on the fly. Would be large then PLD one-handers, but smaller then DRK two handers.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AdventZero View Post
    Rune Fencer as a hand-and-a-half* sword using DPS job that's the other side of the coin from Red Mage.

    Red Mage: 75% magic, 25% melee. Cast spells to build up some kind of charge to use powerful melee attacks (based on my limited knowledge of the job).

    Rune Fencer: 75% melee, 25% magic. Use melee weapon skills to build up some kind of charge to use powerful spell attacks.

    This idea is based on the fact that RUN's in FFXI were basically the "I like swords" version of RDM.

    *Classify these swords as "Rune Swords" in the system for ease of identifying them on the fly. Would be large then PLD one-handers, but smaller then DRK two handers.
    we might disagree, but i thought mystic knight(rune fencer) would make a great tank if they could differentiate it enough from drk that is
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I all for beastmaster with whip my self

    though i do agree some improve need be made to summoner too
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    Xieveral's Avatar
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    Character
    Cardinal Copia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Blue Mage.

    Blue.

    Mage.

    (Kinda got corsair with astrologian but proper COR would be nice too)
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    DarthSanguine's Avatar
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    Alexius Scott
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Shogun. (Basically what SAM should have been)
    Role - Tank
    Weapon - either a Kanabo or an Odachi (like Sephiroth's sword).
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSanguine View Post
    Shogun. (Basically what SAM should have been)
    Role - Tank
    Weapon - either a Kanabo or an Odachi (like Sephiroth's sword).
    Agreed.

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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSanguine View Post
    Shogun. (Basically what SAM should have been)
    Role - Tank
    Weapon - either a Kanabo or an Odachi (like Sephiroth's sword).
    Honestly I think that would be a bit to similar to SAM for them to do it, particularly the expansion after SAM was released.
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Honestly I think that would be a bit to similar to SAM for them to do it, particularly the expansion after SAM was released.
    This i also agree with, and i feel is the real tragedy here. Nothing would have drawn players to the Tank role like Samurai, nothing will be able to in future installments. Until we get a system that leans more in to jobs choosing their roles as in WoW we will have this issue (i feel this would only be a another band aid fix to limp along a shattered kneecap issue...).

    I have my job and enjoy the idea of it's thematic presentation being upgraded. Players that wanted an Eastern themed job do not have that. Of those that switched to Dark Knight for it's overall presentation i feel very few will stay DRK in favor of SAM. I know i am considering making SAM my main DPS job over MNK but still keeping my Main as Dark Knight. I know i wont be going back to level 50 content to help taxed DF que times, why would I? My main is level 60, im getting it 70 asap then going back to see what DPS i will trade MNK for. I am not alone, and expect that it will be a tremendous issue. I hope the dev team learns fully what happens when cornerstone roles are left without something to occupy their attention. However i don't think anything will change really, nothing will invigorate Tanking like SAM could have.
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    Yun Nara
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    Mandragora
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
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    You need to remember that if Shogun were to be introduced, it would have to be an original job. If going by theme, then shoguns would not be possible this expasion. The far east do not seem to have military power. Judging by the setting, far east is in a Edo time setting. So if we were to see a Shogun and subsiquitly a trainer, it would most likly be far into the future when they want to introduce a original job and when the far east have some form of military involment to allow such characters to appear.

    Shoguns may need to use diffrent weapons like the Nodachi, dual katana or even gun katana. Though if they really wanted they could still use a single katana, but without Iai moves and change the playstyle, like SMN, SCH, BLM, and WHM.

    And if I recall Yoshida also did mentined that if Samurai was to be a tank he would call it or make a Shogun. So technaclly Yoshida did root the idea and possibility of introducing a shogun in the furture.
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    Character
    Emsii Heart
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Chemist- Healer, directional potion throwing would be kinda cool

    Mime- Tank, copy-cat damage negation, parrys?

    Blue Mage- melee magic DPS, learns well known enemy abilities such as bad breath, 1000 needles, Fire Breath, Aqua Breath, white wind, mighty guard, magic hammer, goblin punch..etc
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