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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Still at work and haven't had a chance to dive in yet, what got worse?
    It's no less tedious than old diadem but now you have to move around and can end up with fates ending too soon etc, and all the gear is personal potd-style trade-ins now so you can't lot on things based on your job, or benefit from organize a party of people seeking different loot. Fates are just killing mobs which we were doing already without having to jump around every few minutes.

    And if you don't have a group with a decisive leader you end up with half the party deciding one fate is closer/more time left than another and not getting much done as a result.

    It's like SE heard that people wanted to not stay in the same spot mindlessly killing, and focused more on "moving around mindlessly killing" instead of what should have happened; "moving around accomplishing different kinds of things". And old diadem had buried coffers which could get you loot and even spawn bosses if you were dilligent enough (or at least contribute to popping tracks), and that's also gone.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 03-10-2017 at 05:24 AM.

  2. #42
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    Lilila Lila
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    So has anyone seen any other mutant 280s that I want to ~die looking at~?
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    It's no less tedious than old diadem but now you have to move around and can end up with fates ending too soon etc, and all the gear is personal potd-style trade-ins now so you can't lot on things based on your job, or benefit from organize a party of people seeking different loot. Fates are just killing mobs which we were doing already without having to jump around every few minutes.
    So if you go in as say NIN, you could get loot for some other job when completing the FATEs like SCH? That seems a little annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Each FATE takes around 15 mins or a trip into diadem is over in 15 mins? Or do we still get 60 mins in there?
    i'll try to make it more detailed then. Using battle version for to keep it simple.

    Once you enter you'll have a progress bar and an objective. The Whole zone will be covered in FATES(from what i've done they're very quick ones too) but there's a huge purple divide keeping you from reaching the lower islands.
    The progress bar takes ~3 fates to clear and the objective is just like "go to this spot and kill 6 mobs"
    then you'll get another objective and bar to fill
    after that your done and a reward bag drops on the ground

    now that the quest is done points will appear around the map that let you cross to the lower islands(you lose flying in the lower area as well)
    but basically your still just doing FATES, boss FATES spawn in the lower area that are kind of like fighting level 50 S rank hunts and notorius monsters spawn anywhere they're marked with something like a (~)
    boss fates and the NM's drop more chests and broken chests than normal FATES

    after about half an hour the emergency FATE will spawn which is akin to the big FATES with different music you come across in heavensward or behemoth/odin. This FATE is the one that can reward a weapon or just a lot of chests.

    the chests are turned in for random junk, brass spoils, or pink gear
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
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    Great, thank you for explaining! I'm excited to try it when I get home but not too excited as it's sounding like what I expected rather than what I had hoped, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    And old diadem had buried coffers which could get you loot and even spawn bosses if you were dilligent enough (or at least contribute to popping tracks), and that's also gone.
    A friend of mine said found some actually
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  7. #47
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    Has anyone figured out what the Mhachi portal in the Missing Gem is for yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    And old diadem had buried coffers which could get you loot and even spawn bosses if you were dilligent enough (or at least contribute to popping tracks), and that's also gone.
    I know you can get bronze coffers from Corrupted Sprites and there are silver and gold coffers too, just don't know where...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    So has anyone seen any other mutant 280s that I want to ~die looking at~?
    It's a hyperbole, few people get lucky and people think it's a dilemma, far as I've seen you'll be lucky if 1 person in the whole group gets a weapon drop, you'll be lucky if you get to fight the boss during the hour you are in. With those variables in mind if people did the content 24/7 there is a 1/24 chance that a person may get a weapon if the boss spawns, if you beat it, etc. It's honestly amusing because how many times have people complained "What's the point of this new content if the gear is already outdated." and now SE actually puts in a weapon that's better than all content in the game and people are crying "How could they do this, add in better gear with the new content!" You can't win, people are going to complain either way and this is coming from someone who completed their anima. I don't care that these 280 weapons drop, it's intriguing honestly and until we see how it pans out in a month we can't know what the odds of getting one are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Has anyone figured out what the Mhachi portal in the Missing Gem is for yet?


    I know you can get bronze coffers from Corrupted Sprites and there are silver and gold coffers too, just don't know where...
    That's where you go when the Emergency Mission pops. Don't think it has any other relevance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post

    after about half an hour the emergency FATE will spawn which is akin to the big FATES with different music you come across in heavensward or behemoth/odin. This FATE is the one that can reward a weapon or just a lot of chests.

    the chests are turned in for random junk, brass spoils, or pink gear
    **MIGHT** spawn, not "will spawn" we got one NM (at 54 mins in) & no Emergency Mission FATE at all. It's purely RNG that *may* be influenced by the amount of FATEs done & Corrupted Sprites killed but that is unverified.
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