Mount Sprint

[Nightcap]

Not sure if this was asked before but with the rate these maps are getting huge, what do you guys think of using our TP sprint to flight boost our chocobos/horses/magitek/etc to cross the map a bit faster by air?
(maybe by ground too but maybe half as much as flight with a lengthy cool down)

[Zojha]

Mhm, I'd give that option solely to ground mounts because as it is, ground mounts are at a pretty big disadvantage over flight mounts, so there's no reason to ever use one (hence, all the people asking for their favorite mount to get flight capability). If it's fast enough, it just might make them viable again.

The maps are designed for flight, so I don't think that speed needs any changing.

[Lambdafish]

Mhm, I'd give that option solely to ground mounts because as it is, ground mounts are at a pretty big disadvantage over flight mounts, so there's no reason to ever use one (hence, all the people asking for their favorite mount to get flight capability). If it's fast enough, it just might make them viable again.

The maps are designed for flight, so I don't think that speed needs any changing.

I think this is a good solution. There is no benefit to making ground mounts anymore (yoshi P said no tiger mount because it can't fly), so I think having a sprint to ground mounts would give them as much identity as flying mounts, and would mean less stupid flying mounts like fenrir and the turtle.

[seekified]

I think a general TP-based boost would be nice - it'd effectively turn the TP bar into a stamina bar while mounted, and it'd work just like FFXV's chocobos.

[Culfinrandir]

Just as the l33t PVPers how they boost their mount speed. Maybe it's a special medicine they use... -_-

[Nightcap]

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That is true. Flying was a huge part in HW that ground mounts had, at most, 2 maps before running into elevation issues. The new expansion would be great to introduce a sprint mechanic to cover more land since flying will be granted swimming capabilities.

Sides, we're flying. That sprint bar is kinda useless unless it's own own two feet running. Don't mind to have it still tied to the TP bar as PVP is a separate thing.

[Knahli]

I mentioned this before but I'd like additional incentive, such as particular weather patterns making flight slower and less effective to use versus ground mounts, so I'd support this, sure ^^

[Fluffernuff]

Honestly, ground mounts need more than just speed. I would actually like to see mount run speed be the same as flight speed. at bare minimum.

However, even if ground mounts were faster, there is still a rather large elephant in the room preventing their viability: That giant cliff face in your way.


However, we have some mounts that have hotkey-used abilities. the magitek armor's blaster and the moogle mount "seed" are examples. What I personally would propose is that ground mounts have abilities that allow them to traverse different terrain. An example being the collector's coeurl. Why don't we give it a skill that will allow it to bound high into the air that would allow it to scale cliffs, for example.

It's not foolproof, sure. Flying would be alot simpler and faster than having a cat jump up on a bunch of tiny ledges. It's really hard to make land travel better than flight. Flight is not only more convenient, but just plain faster..

[Zojha]

However, even if ground mounts were faster, there is still a rather large elephant in the room preventing their viability: That giant cliff face in your way.

But you don't always need to traverse cliffs.

The basic advantage of flying mounts is that they reduce the distance you need to travel by taking shortcuts over terrain. In order for ground mounts to be viable, you just need to make them the better option whenever that shortcut isn't large or exclusive. And that can be achieved by simply making them faster.

What most developers unfortunately do is to not tax the ability to shortcut in any way and make flying speed faster than ground speed on top. From a balancing point of view, that's like giving a damage dealer the survivability of a tank (Convenience of not being attacked) and the sustain of a healer (Shortcuts) while also increasing their DPS above the competition (Speed) and it has the same effect as well -> Instant invalidation of all other options. And of course everyone will clamor for their favorite mount/job to be brought up to par.

That said, flying mounts will always be superior travel in terrain like the Sea of Clouds or Azys Lla and that is okay. But they don't need to be superior in Coerthas Western Highlands or the Hinterlands as well (unless you wanna climb specific ledges). It's more about nichés than trying to balance them.

As a result, people who want to optimize would likely mount/dismount more often -> Run up to ledge, fly over it, get back to ground behind it. I'd wager most people would just stick to flying anyway, tho' - You can go AFK while flying, the convenience alone would likely make them worth it.

[Clethoria]

Ground mounts sure, I like the way Archage did it. Your mount could also swim if very slowly.

Flying mounts though, wew- you might hit the sound barrier.