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  1. #221
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    Rikuide's Avatar
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    R'kuide Tia
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 18
    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    It really, really, really is throw away gear. It's pink gear, it has randomized stats and it will help you level in Stormblood.
    If anyone still has this after they have hit 67 - 69, they need to be kicked out of a duty with extreme prejudice.

    This gear will help in the leveling process, but will quickly be outclassed and tossed to the wayside. I don't think we should worry about now and should only be concerned about later; that being Stormblood.
    In what world will this be leveling gear? The vast majority of players will level a specific job through SB. Now, what are the chances that they receive one of the new 280 weapons for *that* Job?

    There's only one reason for the new weapons being so much stronger than Alex/Relic; the dev's knew that they would need to incentivize the player base to run Diadem. That speaks volumes for their confidence in the 'new' Diadem.
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  2. #222
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    Caitlyn's Avatar
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    The worst part of Diadem is not the gear/weapon you can get. Its the high amount of RNG:
    • Boss spawns random.
    • Drop rate is random.
    • Weapon-type is random.
    • Weapon-stats are random.

    Can anyone confirm if you can greed on items depending on your current class? Or is it greed-for-all/need-only (which makes it even more random, especially with "randoms")?
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    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulecrain View Post
    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicentis View Post
    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  3. #223
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    The worst part of Diadem is not the gear/weapon you can get. Its the high amount of RNG:
    • Boss spawns random.
    • Drop rate is random.
    • Weapon-type is random.
    • Weapon-stats are random.

    Can anyone confirm if you can greed on items depending on your current class? Or is it greed-for-all/need-only (which makes it even more random, especially with "randoms")?

    Well for the weapon, there is no rolling at all. It drops into your inventory. No need advantage for it.
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  4. #224
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    Chaotic Cookie
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    Cerberus
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    Monk Lv 60
    Guess im the only one that likes RNG, really liked the titanforged system in WoW instead of the 10 ilvls + every 3 months.
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  5. #225
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticCookie View Post
    Guess im the only one that likes RNG, really liked the titanforged system in WoW instead of the 10 ilvls + every 3 months.
    The problem is this isn't a mythic+ like WoW you're at the mercy of RNG across 13 different classes for the weapon and the loot isn't personalized like WoW. You can't kill the Emergency Event boss and have a pld weapon set for your pld you either get it which is unlikely, or you get it for a class you may or may not have leveled. At least in WoW you can change your spec and be a tank while receiving DPS gear as you do/complete the dungeon here? You have a gun pointed to your head until that Diadem timer hits 0 in hopes that you get that event to pop up for the raid boss.
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  6. #226
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    Chaotic Cookie
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    Cerberus
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    The problem is this isn't a mythic+ like WoW you're at the mercy of RNG across 13 different classes for the weapon and the loot isn't personalized like WoW. You can't kill the Emergency Event boss and have a pld weapon set for your pld you either get it which is unlikely, or you get it for a class you may or may not have leveled. At least in WoW you can change your spec and be a tank while receiving DPS gear as you do/complete the dungeon here? You have a gun pointed to your head until that Diadem timer hits 0 in hopes that you get that event to pop up for the raid boss.
    Not just diadem, overall the gearing in this game is meh, tomestone farm is MEH, normal raid gear farm is MEH, Savage is better since it just drops gear with a weekly lockout.

    Im really enjoying diadem so far (please dont kill me) but yeah gearing in this game is not fun
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  7. #227
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Relics have always been about glamour, if you grinded that quest for a high item level weapon well then now you've seen the cycle come full circle.
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  8. #228
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Well for the weapon, there is no rolling at all. It drops into your inventory. No need advantage for it.
    Wait a second... seriously??? How can it be more random???
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    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulecrain View Post
    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicentis View Post
    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  9. #229
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Can anyone confirm if you can greed on items depending on your current class? Or is it greed-for-all/need-only (which makes it even more random, especially with "randoms")?
    All drops are personal.

    Fates reward you with various amounts of "Damaged Lockbox" tokens.
    Completing the Mission, Completing FATEs with Notorious Monsters (Star symbol) and Chests give "Lockbox" tokens
    The Coven weapons drop straight into a random player's inventory.

    Damaged Lockbox and Lockbox tokens are taken to an NPC that will "open" them for random rewards.
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  10. #230
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticCookie View Post
    Not just diadem, overall the gearing in this game is meh, tomestone farm is MEH, normal raid gear farm is MEH, Savage is better since it just drops gear with a weekly lockout.

    Im really enjoying diadem so far (please dont kill me) but yeah gearing in this game is not fun
    If you enjoy it keep doing it, i'm not spouting hate for it because I agree with what you're saying about the gearing I loved how Legion does it's gearing with Mythic+ I wish we had the equivalent with Savage dungeons but that's for another time. Tomestone farming gets old fast and I wish the cap for it was 900 since we're close to the end of the xpac, but this wasn't the answer through Diadem, coming from someone who has done the raiding content I was looking forward to seeing what they did i'm still conflicted as I feel like this is a bandage on a sore wound that hasn't healed since Gordias.

    Not to mention the final relic step is 9 days old with no Gobdip from Dun Scaith just hunts...it's a slap in the face to the whole playerbase not the hardcore or elites just anyone in general who gives a damn about how content is cycled in this game and then thrown out in an instant. Yes the expansion is coming out but seeing all the hard work people have done for relic/raiding and seeing that RNG is the actual final raid tier of this expansion...it could have been handled better.
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