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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Seems like a better idea just removing the mentoring stuff. It's being abused for personal gain and not helping new players as intended.
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    Novia Marius
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    This would rely on people:
    a. not just max starring to get the window out of the way
    b. not just min starring cause they didn't like someone


    I still think the easiest solution is for devs to just swap the crown for a "less desirable" icon. Tree? Watering can? Literally anything other than a crown would have worked better.
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    Setsuna Tribal
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    Summoner Lv 60


    Must look like this to become a Mentor
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I disagree.
    I really don't see how Mentors would abuse a reward system like this, I find the players to be more abusive towards mentors in this situation. Like tying a carrot to the end of a fishing pole.
    There are numerous mentors that are solely doing it for the rewards gained from it and the OP is saying better rewards should be given, he used getting 10% off your sub cost as an example of better rewards.

    You honestly don't believe ppl won't abuse the mentor system for the rewards?

    These new/returning players ppl also run into that are rude and such to others, eventually they'll be a mentor going after the rewards given and probably still being rude and such to others. You want to encourage new bad mentors with rewards for being a mentor?
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    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Spriggan
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    There are numerous mentors that are solely doing it for the rewards gained from it and the OP is saying better rewards should be given, he used getting 10% off your sub cost as an example of better rewards.

    You honestly don't believe ppl won't abuse the mentor system for the rewards?

    These new/returning players ppl also run into that are rude and such to others, eventually they'll be a mentor going after the rewards given and probably still being rude and such to others. You want to encourage new bad mentors with rewards for being a mentor?
    Let's be realistic, there's absolutely nothing that SE could ever add or do that wouldn't be abused. The most they can do is design it so that it can't be as easily abused, but it always will be regardless. I've seen the toxicity on both sides. in mentors and non-mentors alike. I've also seen good mentors and good non-mentors alike. The problem is that people want to punish all mentors for their experiences with a certain few they have encountered. I also can't tell you how many times I have seen new players ask me how they can become a mentor because they feel they could do the job better. Personally I think people put to much weight and value on this fictionary crown. For example, I am a mentor myself and I have choosen to take my crown off because of harassment from non-crown wearers. People accusing me for telling them how to play the game when I am just trying to help. Saying I don't pay their sub and more. Eventually I just gave up trying to deal with it. It was more stressful than it was honestly worth. If they added new and better rewards attached to the crown, then I might consider going back and 'sucking up' to the non crown wearers to get said rewards. Especially since people take my advice more seriously without the crown than with. So until they add better rewards, my crown is staying off. I don't feel like dealing with the hostility over a little icon beside my name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    For example, I am a mentor myself and I have chosen to take my crown off because of harassment from non-crown wearers. People accusing me for telling them how to play the game when I am just trying to help. Saying I don't pay their sub and more. .
    How did you help? did you start the conversation off with "hey x, want tips?" if the answer is no... you are at fault. Force feeding "advice" is socially rude. It is telling someone how to do something in what can be seen as a negative way.
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yangshun View Post
    - Allow participant to rate mentor performance after mentor DR runs
    - Allow to upvote/rate mentor for helpful advice in NN
    - fall below 4 star status = removal of mentor status
    - inactive of mentor activities in DR/NN = removal of mentor status

    Give better rewards for higher requirements such as 10% discount forsub fees


    kthxbye
    How about no, don't care how good of mentor you are doesn't mean you should get to play the game for less then others.
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    I still think the easiest solution is for devs to just swap the crown for a "less desirable" icon. Tree? Watering can? Literally anything other than a crown would have worked better.
    Honestly I think a watering can would be a perfect icon for mentors, mentors sharing their knowledge with new and returning players helping them to blossom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    Honestly I think a watering can would be a perfect icon for mentors, mentors sharing their knowledge with new and returning players helping them to blossom.
    make this a thing, it would be cute. we have sprouts, flowers... why not a watering can or a sun icon? it fits the theme.
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