[Suggestion] 1 Job, 2 Roles

[LandricFrey]

Greetings everyone! I'll get right to it.

Samurai Ability: "Tank Stance"

* Toggle Skill
* Substantially increase enmity generation
* STR and VIT values swapped
* Auto Queue as Tank if on
* Cannot toggle off while in Queue or Duty
(If you changed jobs in queue, Tank Stance would still be on when you switched back)

Red Mage Ability: Healer Stance
(Assuming RDM will already come with some White Magic)

* Toggle Skill
* 3-5 Most useful healing skills are unlocked
* 3-5 Most powerful damaging skills are locked
* INT and MND values swapped
* Auto Queue as Healer if on
* Cannot toggle off while in Queue or Duty
(If you changed jobs in queue, Healer Stance would still be on when you switched back)

Addressing drops:

* Increase rate of INT and STR based gear
OR
* Currency only gear system. (You put in the time, you should get the gear)


Your thoughts?

[Jonnycbad]

This has been proposed before. The general consensus is: "No thanks".

[Vexander]

As much as I wouldn't mind being able to heal on a RDM, I have to say no as well. Maybe in a distant expansion in which they give each job a secondary role with a similiar-but-different weapon selection, but right now, I don't think we can hope to see it.

[Kosmos992k]

No thanks. The system as it is creates jobs with specific lore and capability in their role. Making hybrids out of DPS jobs is just another way of allowing the DPS mentality to bleed into other roles.

[Vexander]

No thanks. The system as it is creates jobs with specific lore and capability in their role. Making hybrids out of DPS jobs is just another way of allowing the DPS mentality to bleed into other roles.

Pretty sure the DPS mentality already exists in other roles. Warriors and Scholars are staples in the tanking and healing role due to their ability to effectively DPS.

[Kosmos992k]

Pretty sure the DPS mentality already exists in other roles. Warriors and Scholars are staples in the tanking and healing role due to their ability to effectively DPS.

Indeed, that's why I said "another way" because the bleed over is already a near lethal hemorrhage.

The OPs suggestion would simply further sideline tanks and healers, a thought to which I could give my verdict, but I would likely earn a forum ban for the language.

[Stitches1974]

No thanks. The system as it is creates jobs with specific lore and capability in their role. Making hybrids out of DPS jobs is just another way of allowing the DPS mentality to bleed into other roles.

What about making DPS out of hybrids? Traditionally that's what a RDM started off as in the FF series. Jack of all trades and master of none. Now, they're strictly DPS. After they announced it at fanfest or whatever it was, it was touted as a melee/ caster hybrid, I was pretty stoked about playing that job. Now that it's out that they're only ranged DPS, some of that excitement has left, but still leaves me wanting to play that job. What are your thoughts about that?

I have no clue about SAM in the FF universe though.

[Yurimi]

I have no clue about SAM in the FF universe though.

They throw gil at the problem

Want to down that pesky current raid content well use "Gil Toss" and throw gil at your problem only 50M gil and you too can solo the top content!

(for those who dont get it I am joking even though Gil Toss was kind of the sam thing in previous games)

[Ramath]

I theory, this is great, however, in practice it is abysmal... What happens is you get a DPS version queue up as a healer, just to get faster queues, then refuse to heal as its "not their style." I've seen it happen in other games, and those forums are stuffed to the gills with threads asking for them to be removed.

The simple truth of the matter is that in MMOs, choice and options are a lie and illusion. It's simply better to have a job designed for a specific role and leave it at that.

[Vexander]

I theory, this is great, however, in practice it is abysmal... What happens is you get a DPS version queue up as a healer, just to get faster queues, then refuse to heal as its "not their style." I've seen it happen in other games, and those forums are stuffed to the gills with threads asking for them to be removed.

The simple truth of the matter is that in MMOs, choice and options are a lie and illusion. It's simply better to have a job designed for a specific role and leave it at that.

It doesn't work this way with Summoners and Scholars though. Can't say I've come across Scholars who refuse to heal because it isn't their Style. Which is why I'd prefer this was done with a secondary kind of weapon. Imagine being able to queue as a Warrior with the DPS role while dual-wielding axes? Or as a Dark Knight in the DPS role with a Scythe? In a lot of ways a second weapon option for a second role would balance things out reasonably with player expectation and desire.