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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    A Way To Give Anyone A Chance At Hellhound Mounts?

    I've always wanted at least one of the mounts but sadly I started way too late and queues were bad so I missed a chance at the red one, wanted that most. PvPers deserve their rewards and they should not be simply given out to people who do not put in effort. Or else their achievements are devalued.

    However I propose an idea.. it would allow players to have chance at all mounts while still requiring more effort than the ranked winners.

    I propose.. that the Hellhounds(and possibly future mounts) be purchasable via a Wolves' Den vendor with 4 million wolf marks. You read that right. 4 million wolf marks. 4,000,000. Each.

    As insane as it sounds, I think a Fenrir-style grind would be a great addition to PvP as we'd finally have something to spend our capped marks on. And needing 4,000,000 marks each... I'd say that would take effort. And maybe some medicine.. But it's a worthy trade for not hitting top 100 or 30.

    And they could even make a Kirin-style achievement for collecting all 4 *evil laugh*


    Here's how this could be done:
    1) Players buy tokens that cost 20,000 wolf marks.

    2) To limit inventory bloat and 4 stacks of tokens, players with 5 20k tokens will be able to trade them in for 1 token representing 100,000 marks.

    3) You will need 40 of the 100k tokens to trade for the mount.

    Possible Problems and Solutions:
    1) Wintrading. To combat this, remove the 250 mark reward from Light Party feast. Either that, or actually ban the people or find some method.

    2) Wolf mark boost actions. I say remove them from the game. The numbers are already inflated as it is so I don't think we need those actions.


    PvP needs to have long-term goals that aren't solely decided by the RNG that is a bad team. It would require 4,000 frontline wins in a row to reach 4 million. So no one will easily get a mount. But people should have an option. Even if it's medically lethal.

    EDIT: only available after seasons are over
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 03-04-2017 at 02:24 PM.

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    No thanks. They're exclusive mounts for a reason. If everyone were able to get them, they would lose their value. Every second garo boy has the 200 win feast mount, the ADS mount, and platinum and even diamond wolf titles now have been devalued by replacing skill with grind.

    Good luck trying to get it in S4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    Every second garo boy has the 200 win feast mount, the ADS mount
    I think you're overestimating the amount of players who actually have those mounts. Besides, wintrading in Light Part Feast already devalued the mount.

    But if SE is going to stick with exclusive PvP mounts, let's make the 4.0 raid mounts exclusive as well. It'd only be fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I think you're overestimating the amount of players who actually have those mounts. Besides, wintrading in Light Part Feast already devalued the mount.

    But if SE is going to stick with exclusive PvP mounts, let's make the 4.0 raid mounts exclusive as well. It'd only be fair.
    I'd love to see something like that. Register for an exclusive raid mount for each raid tier (like A1S-A4S, A5S-A8S, A9S-A12S so 3 different mounts) and the first 20 raid teams per data center that clears that tier gets the mount.
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    Last edited by Llus; 03-03-2017 at 12:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    I'd love to see something like that. Register for an exclusive raid mount for each raid tier (like A1S-A4S, A5S-A8S, A9S-A12S so 3 different mounts) and the first 20 raid teams per data center that clears that tier gets the mount.
    Eh, just going with removing the mount as a drop when a new part of the raid has been released should make it exclusive enough, with the one from the last raid part in an expansion being removed as a drop when the Echo is applied to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Eh, just going with removing the mount as a drop when a new part of the raid has been released should make it exclusive enough, with the one from the last raid part in an expansion being removed as a drop when the Echo is applied to it.
    All I see is increasing the amount of ppl that buy clears lul you may say ppl can boost friends on ranked leaderboards but who is actually willing to account share that is against ToS anyways? right only very few

    Even though I wouldn't mind exclusive stuff for server first/second etc. in pve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Eh, just going with removing the mount as a drop when a new part of the raid has been released should make it exclusive enough, with the one from the last raid part in an expansion being removed as a drop when the Echo is applied to it.
    Nea, I don't think that would be all that great. People already buy savage runs for gear and mounts, it wouldn't really make it exclusive it would just make those raiders that sell those runs TONS richer.
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    No, just let people have exclusive things. Its already annoying that we dont have exclusive things for completing a new raid tier before the catch up patches.
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    "That makes no sense.. how is it no effort if you are setting aside time, or prioritizing your time to get that many marks every 2 days for 200 days(6 months and 20 days) after the competition? It's like saying if your bird doesn't drop from an EX, clearing it 99 requires no effort.
    Clearly the problem isn't about it not taking effort, time, skill, and dedication. Your issue is just exclusivity"

    (Don't know why I can't find this original reply to quote)

    So here's the thing, the reward for top 100 means both effort and skills, not merely effort

    I can call a friend and farm 8v8 in healer which I'm not good at with 80%+ win rate
    But my healer in solo still like bronze level (btw 8v8 is much easier now because of pre season ppl all practicing there, which means it's just farm)
    Did you ever seen a bronze healer in top100?

    So why should the bronze healer do a lot wolf mark farm get the same reward as top 100
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