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    [Dev Request] Purchasable Allagan Pieces for Transfering

    So I have a few friends who want to transfer from Balmung to another server, but the problem is they have a lot of gil and don't want to just give it up due to the gil transfer limit. I know this is an issue for a lot of people who would gladly transfer off big servers like balmung to less populated servers that have housing available but the biggest issue is the fact that they would lose a lot of gil in the process.

    Would it be possible to have a vendor where we could purchase Allagan/Clear Demi pieces or some form of currency exchange so we don't lose the majority of the gil we have?

    And if you're worried about it too much you could make the currency pieces cost more to purchase than they are to sell. Say for Tin pieces it could cost 50 gil to purchase with a 25 gil sell back rate. Bronze 150. Silver 600, Gold 2,750, Platinum 11k.

    Unless someone can say otherwise; I don't see how this could be in any way game breaking or unfair.
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    You can do that by buying the gold and silver pieces from the marketboard. Just buy them from the marketboard and the sell them back once you transfer.
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    If SE wanted us to transfer more Gil, they would remove the cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    You can do that by buying the gold and silver pieces from the marketboard. Just buy them from the marketboard and the sell them back once you transfer.
    I'm aware... but sometimes the prices of the pieces are more than they want to spend. You also have the issue of the pieces selling out and becoming far more expensive than their intended sell price thus making it to where you loose far more than you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    I'm aware... but sometimes the prices of the pieces are more than they want to spend.
    Oh ok. Well I doubt SE will change their system because they don't want people transferring too much money and messing up the economy of servers. That it why the limit is in place. I do think they should raise it some because there is more gil in circulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    Oh ok. Well I doubt SE will change their system because they don't want people transferring too much money and messing up the economy of servers. That it why the limit is in place. I do think they should raise it some because there is more gil in circulation.
    Agreed. Yet they aren't really keeping a decent eye on the economy as Balmung's economy is absolutely crap compared to other servers on our data center. Eikon cloth sells for about 4k per cloth on Balmung, on Jenova it's near 100k per cloth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    If SE wanted us to transfer more Gil, they would remove the cap.
    Indeed, which is I suspect why they left the back door option of buying the coins on the MB from others in the game. Kind of an unofficial way for you to take more if you want/need to.
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    Check the server marketboard you're planning to transfer to and buy items that could have same or higher value so you spend your gil into items that you could re-sell there. It's risky because you might not end up selling everything, but like someone else said, I don't think SE wants to transfer all the money that could disrupt different world economies, otherwise there wouldn't be a cap.
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    Essentially OP is asking for gil limits on server transfers to be removed. Raising the price of the allagan pieces above their sell value just incurs a transfer tax, but still removes the limit.

    Generally when people transfer, they can get around the limit by buying commodity items and reselling at the destination. It's inefficient, but allows a lot of wealth to transfer based on the relative economies. That inefficiency limits the use of the feature for the sole purpose of trading between server economies.

    In the case of a Balmung -> Lower pop transfer, those 'friends' should be making a ton of money on the transfer. They can buy up high demand goods that are cheap on Balmung and sell them at the destination for much more. So there is absolutely no need for a gil limit boost or allagan pieces. Goods are relatively cheap on Balmung compared to any low/mid pop server. Why aren't they doing that?

    Could it be they also want to transfer back to Balmung later after making the many millions of gil required to buy a Balmung house? That is why the transfer limit exits! It prevents Balmung from constantly dumping goods into other servers by capping the gil on return and even acts as a disincentive to transfer to high pop servers, helping control Balmung's population a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinari View Post
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    Balmung still sees more people transferring to the server rather than off and I'm sure those transferring to Balmung would like to keep all their gil given Balmung's terrible economy. Not all servers share the "buy cheap on old server, sell for more on new server" gist. Some are in the same boat as Balmung.

    I had finally convinced someone who had an alt on Balmung to transfer their main from Jenova, Jenova being an easy server to make gil on; they had over 20+ mil in gil but they had to give it all up by buying items they didn't really need that wouldn't sell well on Balmung regardless due to the influx of said items currently on our market board. He was only able to transfer 1.8 mil in gil and make an additional 3.2 mil on our server due to the economic crisis our server has in regards to the influx of new people wanting to come here.

    Honestly I've done the buy cheap on Balmung sell for more on low pop servers and the amount of real money that goes into doing that to transfer gil back to your original server isn't really worth it, then again I don't make much on my paychecks to begin with. But if and when an official RP server is EVER announced, I would like to transfer the gil I have towards the new server and not have to go through the mess of an economy similar to that of Balmungs.
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