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  1. #91
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    OP is suggesting that an effort be made to enforce Greed lots for gear that is not going to be used as equipment, or for glamour. The intent is to put them on even footing with other players, when using those items in ways that anyone would be able to.

    I don't see the need. The current system is fine. If a player wants to use their class to lock down a piece of gear that they intend to use for job-independent purposes, that's perfectly all right. Since everyone in the party is on a job of some kind, everyone has even chances of locking down a piece of gear, for whatever purpose they plan to use it. Over time, everyone has equal opportunity to acquire gear for various purposes - and if you have actual job specific purposes, you can come on that job to tilt the odds in your favor.

    The suggestion the OP makes for enforcing this, too, is questionable in the case of glamour, which the OP seems to recognize as a valid use for job-specific lotting. Who is going to want to wear a piece of glamour gear until it reaches 10% spiritbond?
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  2. #92
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    Kit-Kat's Avatar
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    Ayleen Estheim
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    Siren
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    The intent is to put them on even footing with other players
    Well, that's the thing. It is even right now, this suggestion would break it because it's solely based on biased values.
    Also another flaw, how would the system decide if you're rolling it for stats/glamour or seals/desynth. Everyone would just roll it on glamour option and then use it for whatever, making it completely useless.
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  3. #93
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    sad part is, the expert trade in system was added to gc specifically because players were siting on a ton of gear they couldn't get rid of.

    trading in pink-blue/purple gear nets you a good amount of gc seals which you do need to do and rank up in your gc to open some portions of the game. Like chocobo aka mounts. if you can't get seals for gc, you can't get chocobo. if can't get chocobo can't use any mount.
    if you can't use any mounts, you can't fly, which some side quests do require flight. Like kitty on a cold tin roof.

    fc you can't get gear to trade in for seals, ranking up a fc is painful. And tons of fc features are locked behind fc ranks.
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  4. #94
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    One can PVP roulette and get all 235 gear. It's easy, you can run PVP all day and gear your role high enough to do most content. I have a new alt on gilgamesh and she's done everything except the new expert dungeons and Dun and some expert primals cause she isn't high enough yet (only 216 atm). She almost capped scripture this week and just turned 60 a couple days ago.
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  5. #95
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Why is glamour rated higher than seals - which can be used to buy glamour?
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    http://king.canadane.com

  6. #96
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Why is glamour rated higher than seals - which can be used to buy glamour?
    Even though I'm sure this is rhetorical: Because the OP personally only cares about glamour and stats - so every other second use needs to be limited ofc!
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  7. #97
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    This is a terrible, very self serving suggestion. What's someone supposed to do with the gear after they're done with it?
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  8. #98
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    This is a terrible, very self serving suggestion. What's someone supposed to do with the gear after they're done with it?
    Spiritbond it all :S
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  9. #99
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    The system itself was designed and priority given to reward you on the job you queue'd the content on. This core reasoning has valid purpose. As you should be completing content with the job you queue'd for, getting actual experience and learning that job, regardless of player skill and level.

    Whether it is for gearing, glam, seals, etc. Everyone is afforded the opportunity and is rewarded for the job they queue'd with.

    I do not agree with the OP's proposal. IMO the negatives outweigh the positives for the community, duty finder, and there is no justification to make the system more complex for both Devs and Players.

    A less intrusive and more rewarding approach has been suggested. Alter the Loot pool based on the jobs actually participating in the content. Giving all players better chances with gear. Again, the core reasoning is rewarding the player for the job they are actually completing the content with.
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  10. #100
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    Kingmanath's Avatar
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    Kingmanath Toriktai
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    slander SE for plagiarism in Stormblood because the roe NPC looks like the panda in WoW
    Ahahahahahhahah thank you for the fun
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