[SUGGESTION] Modify the function of "Need" option for loot

[Vidu]

More annoying and difficult? Just "greed" in this case. Or let it time-out; much easier than interacting with any menu.

I didn't know "expert delivery" was the only way to get GC seals. Maybe they should have added more ways to get seals, haven't they done that yet?

So... äähm, I'm getting this right you want a system that memorizes how you obtained an item (if it was through "need" or through "greed") and then change what you can do with this item based on this condition and the spiritbonding status?
If you can make it anymore complicated for no good reason, let me know, please!
And you dont want to change the loot-system at all - as in: keep the need and greed options - but make it more "difficult" to use the gear for any other purpose but wearing it?

...why again, excatly?
YOU believe the only valid need for gear is to wear it - while the game clearly thinks otherwise, by opening up all those different options on what to do with the loot. And its okay if you dont want to do that, thats cool - but here are enough people who would like to get their desynth/relic/seal/retainer-progression going - and the game supports that.
We're having items that cant be turned in (or desynthed) - Dun Scaith, Zurvan/Sophia weapons,... - so IF the devs want to ensure you only roll on stuff that you want to wear, they'll put it in the game. And seeing how those restrictions get lifted after a while, they obviously dont intend us to hold on to that stuff forever. And good lord I love it to grab those paladin shield&sword and get my 3k seals for them...

[RaquelleAvarosa]

I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS THREAD AT ALL.

You don't have to, you just need to know that a clown is entertaining us!

[Istaru]

Of course it's not in the list. And where did I mention "I am a unique and beautiful snowflake, I demand to have all the things I desire over anyone else's needs/wants/desires?"

Not in my posts, sorry.

Don't like it? Take it up with your reading skills.

Have a nice day!!

Hi pot, it's me, kettle.

Have a very nice day!!

[Bloody]

At this point, it probably was best for Cordie to make a thread separating her (his?) idea(s) from the other thread's OP.

I'm still not sold on the idea, although the 10% spiritbond idea (or insert percentage here) that is needed before a piece of gear becomes viable for alternative uses isn't too bad. It just feels like an unnecessary extra layer to the system.

[Yudzster]

you became quite famous now in this forum eh OP

[Vidu]

I'm still not sold on the idea, although the 10% spiritbond idea (or insert percentage here) that is needed before a piece of gear becomes viable for alternative uses isn't too bad. It just feels like an unnecessary extra layer to the system.

What purpose would that 10%-"gate" serve though? Making sure people are not bothering with desynth and GC-seals anymore and just letting gear drop to the floor?
Or would you also be in favour of a system that puts that restriction only on gear you got through "need" - infact giving the system yet ANOTHER thing to check on your gear?
And why is dungeon gear so important that someone shouldnt be allowed to roll "need" on it just because they're not going to wear it?

Everyone in a dungeon-run has the chance of having gear drop for their class, so they can need and have first priority on it. Since the df tries not to double dps, even they have a decent chance to have first priority SHOULD there item drop.
And if someone really wants a specific piece, speaking up about it will STILL be better than just hoping people wont need on it - because with the idea of only need giving the 10%-debuff, there could still be 3 other people greeding along side you to get it and you can still lose out on it, so... how would that be better than saying "Hey, could you please let me have XY?" Now that we can even pass after picking need/greed you can even ASK when a piece of gear already dropped.

I really dont see why this system has to change and punish crafters (mainly...) just because people cant manage to speak up in a dungeon or get butthurt when someone says "Sorry, but I'll need anyways, because I came here as this class to need"

[RaijinSupreme]

Reasoning


I am really sorry, but seeing that you have no valid point (or even an attempt to make one) against my reasoning, I can only see these comments as irrelevant to the matter I am suggesting :

Sooo the entire thread is irrelevant. Can't argue with that, seeing as there's another thread that has heavily discussed this topic.

[Settiesama]

This thread should just end. You want gear for a job, play the job, simple. If you don't play it, why do you want gear for it? Seriously, end the thread with this, it's a simple system that isn't broken. If you don't get it because someone else has a job that can lot too, run again.

[Kosmos992k]

Who was this man Hitler?

I refer you to Godwin's Law, and suggest you never make that comparison again.

[Altena]

Simply repeating yourselves does not make your objections any more valid.

I seriously wish you would take your own advice on this one.. You have far more people that disagree with you than those that agree. No matter how many times you repeat your "arguments" and fail to see simple logic.