[SUGGESTION] Modify the function of "Need" option for loot

[Cordie]

Simply repeating yourself does not make your suggestion any more valid.

Enough with this.

Show me and everyone how the following is invalid:

The use of gear loot for the class/job a player is playing is either:

• equipping it, or
• using it for glamour

All other cases of using gear loot (Grand Company expert delivery, desynthesis, selling, discarding) are not specific to any job/class. Therefore, providing the same "Need" option for these cases is not justified.

Either you can (and I would like to see it), or you cannot.

Simply stating that you don't like it is not something to be taken seriously

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Enough with this.

Show me and everyone how the following is invalid:



Either you can (and I would like to see it), or you cannot.

Simply stating that you don't like it is not something to be taken seriously

Haha sorry, no. No matter how much we may not like it at times (I've been guilty of this in the past, I should know) someone not liking something IS a perfectly valid reason for them to not want it put in the game, and people have provided reasons beyond not liking it that your suggestion SHOULDN'T be put in effect.

[Cordie]

Oh that's how we play the game alright... Where's the suggestion? Guess it wasn't valid enough

First page, 1st post. Go have a look.

TL;DR: Please punish those who need seals, desynths etc. So that I may gear up a job I'm not gonna use.

Why should everyone be punished like this? Clearly you do not understand just what seals and all can be used for, and wanna know what that is? Something that can be used for equipping/Glamour in the long run! So in a way, you ARE still needing for what you said. So yes, have your bloody answer to that section.

You are not being punished, feel free to roll "Greed" as you currently do. Nothing changes there.
2 relics and counting. Yes, tell me what seals are used for.
There are more and better ways to farm seals, too.
/facepalm

Haha sorry, no. No matter how much we may not like it at times (I've been guilty of this in the past, I should know) someone not liking something IS a perfectly valid reason for them to not want it put in the game, and people have provided reasons beyond not liking it that your suggestion SHOULDN'T be put in effect.

Some of us happen to be adults, or at least somewhat reasonable. Where there is a clear reason a change should be considered, insisting on not doing so because you "don't like it" is not enough. I could be sitting here and saying "I don't like the current loot system" and ask for random changes giving no valid reasons why, and that would (as it should) have no effect on any changes in the loot system. You are doing the very much same thing.

[Settiesama]

You are not being punished, feel free to roll "Greed" as you currently do. Nothing changes there.
2 relics and counting. Yes, tell me what seals are used for.
/facepalm

And then lose out everything to someone not playing the class (Who is probably rolling need on his anyway for same reason)? If I do win, I then have to weaken myself to soul bind it? getting others angry for using such low stuff? Yeah, brilliant idea.

Oh, and again, why is someones need of a gear that is used for a very BRIEF time worth more than our seals for something that lasts us a LONG time?

[Cordie]

No. Worst idea ever. My need for GC seals & desynth levels is just as great as someone's ilvl. You don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.

Likewise, my need for GC seals and glamours is just as great as yours and you don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.
My suggestion does not affect this, and I certainly fail to see where the heck I listed my or your ideals as a reason for the suggestion.

And then lose out everything to someone not playing the class (Who is probably rolling need on his anyway for same reason)? If I do win, I then have to weaken myself to soul bind it? getting others angry for using such low stuff? Yeah, brilliant idea.

Oh, and again, why is someones need of a gear that is used for a very BRIEF time worth more than our seals for something that lasts us a LONG time?

If you roll need and no-one else is playing the class you will get the item. You don't have to equip it immediately, and you shouldn't if it's a downgrade!

It's by no means "a very brief time" : see glamours. This case is also a bonus of making the item staying permanently in your inventory - accidentally selling/discarding/trading-in and having to go find another one, roll and win it again is such a pain.

[Settiesama]

Likewise, my need for GC seals and glamours is just as great as yours and you don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.
My suggestion does not affect this, and I certainly fail to see where the heck I listed my or your ideals as a reason for the suggestion.



If you roll need and no-one else is playing the class you will get the item. You don't have to equip it immediately, and you shouldn't if it's a downgrade! .

But under your rules, you WOULD have to equip it at some point. Therefore is a major punishment. You simply can't be reasoned with can you? You seriously can't see how your idea would actually cause the death of the game, instead of aiding people.

[Youkulm]

Likewise, my need for GC seals and glamours is just as great as yours and you don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.
My suggestion does not affect this, and I certainly fail to see where the heck I listed my or your ideals as a reason for the suggestion..

Yes it does. Did you not read your own suggestion? I wont be able to turn it in for Seals unless its spiritbonded.

Again -- Worst idea ever.

Guys, pretty sure this dude is a troll.

[Miste]

you don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.

Um....totally random but...isn't that exactly what you are trying to do by changing the original Loot System that SE implemented for their own game??

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/playdead

[Settiesama]

Um....totally random but...isn't that exactly what you are trying to do by changing the original Loot System that SE implemented for their own game??

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/playdead

It's also exactly what she's doing with us.

[JunseiKei]

Likewise, my need for GC seals and glamours is just as great as yours and you don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.