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  1. #1
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    Ishgard
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    Cordelia Primerain
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    Lich
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    Mage noir Lv 70

    [SUGGESTION] Modify the function of "Need" option for loot

    If gear loot is acquired by rolling "Need", then:
    1. Flag it as unsellable, non-discardable, ineligible for GC turn‑ins, and ineligible for desynthesis.
    2. Remove the flags when they reach 10% to 100% spiritbond.


    The use of gear loot for the DoM/DoW class/job a player is playing is either:
    • equipping it, or
    • using it for glamour

    All other cases of using gear loot (Grand Company expert delivery, desynthesis, selling, discarding) are not specific to any DoM/DoW job/class. Therefore, providing the same "Need" option for these cases is not justified.
    (12)
    Dernière modification de Cordie, 07/03/2017 à 12h01 Raison: clarifying which classes can roll need

  2. #2
    Player Avatar de Kosmos992k
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    Ul'Dah
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Please ignore this suggestion.
    (129)

  3. #3
    Player Avatar de Dualgunner
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    Gridania
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machiniste Lv 80
    The current system isn't broken, there's no need to over-convolute and confuse things.
    (58)

  4. #4
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    This is exactly what the game needs to convince me to stop using the Duty Finder entirely
    (64)

  5. #5
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Érudit Lv 90
    So, if I get a piece of gear, and use it maybe twice to enter a higher level of content, get a better replacement, I have to use this old piece because you were salty about some Crystal Tower drops?

    Come on. This is a really bad suggestion. As if my armory chest isn't filled up enough with all the crafting gear and glamours already, you want me to have to wear gear 200 ilvls below what I usually wear in case I change my mind?
    (29)

  6. #6
    Player Avatar de Kosmos992k
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Ryel Voir le message
    This is exactly what the game needs to convince me to stop using the Duty Finder entirely
    Exactly the point i made to the OP in their post in the other topic;

    Citation Envoyé par Cordie Voir le message
    Just came up with another idea, if you want the same biased system.
    • In the case you want to preserve newbies' priority on loot for gearing, there is a very simple solution:
      1. Flag all gear loot acquired by rolling "Need" as unsellable, non-discardable, ineligible for GC turn‑ins, and ineligible for desynthesis.
      2. Remove the flags when they reach 100% spiritbond.
    • If it's not the case, you are not only in favour of a skewed system but you are actively trying to piggyback the newbie-priority case for your "I picked a job - give me my trophy" over-entitlement.
    This is a terrible idea. The fundamental point remains, if a player plays their role in a dungeon there is no reason that you can give that is fair that alters that player's right to have the same access to loot rolls as everyone else in the dungeon. What you are asking for is in effect penalizing some veterans for being veterans. I think that would result in a reduction in people running DF content.
    (22)

  7. #7
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    Tobias Deau
    World
    Siren
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    Archer Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Ryel Voir le message
    This is exactly what the game needs to convince me to stop using the Duty Finder entirely
    My thoughts exactly!! this is such a bad idea that I don't think making multiple treads about it is not going to make the Developers even consider it.
    (16)

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    Francia Alto
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    Seraph
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    Gladiateur Lv 1
    Please no.
    (16)

  9. #9
    Player
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    Cordelia Primerain
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Mage noir Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Rubiss Voir le message
    So, if I get a piece of gear, and use it maybe twice to enter a higher level of content, get a better replacement, I have to use this old piece because you were salty about some Crystal Tower drops?

    Come on. This is a really bad suggestion. As if my armory chest isn't filled up enough with all the crafting gear and glamours already, you want me to have to wear gear 200 ilvls below what I usually wear in case I change my mind?
    Thanks for noticing. A 10% spiritbond is more reasonable if you only need the gear for 1 or two instances. I corrected the relevant point accordingly.
    (2)

  10. #10
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    Avatar de Serilda
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    Character
    Renard Lefeuvre
    World
    Yojimbo
    Main Class
    Alchimiste Lv 90
    Let's make the game even more complicated than it is to prevent people having fun! This was a bad idea when it was suggested in the existing thread which is still on the first page of General, and it's still a bad idea. Sorry.

    For the dozenth time, if people want a particular drop they can just ask their allies to help out.
    (12)

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