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  1. #1
    Player
    Feidam's Avatar
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I'm ok with them changing the loot rules. It is just way more complicated than simple need vs greed. There is need for self which should take priority imo, the there is glamour and retainer. It goes on. Most of the times I've seen people ask when the truly need something. However ina run the other day on my healer watch a fully geared BLM need every caster item and screw a lower ilvl smn then complain that the run took too long. When the smn asked for the gear was told to F off he didn't pay the BLM sub. So there are reasons to adjust it. Depending on your mindset.
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    Arutan's Avatar
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Sounds like a derivative way to cry over a loot we missed by an outroll of 1-2 and that we wanted for a long time.
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    Ailis's Avatar
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    Lua Kahra
    World
    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    It's really just punishing people that want to get seals, which is REALLY bad considering there's multiple things you can only get with GC seals and they're quite in demand either for crafting or relic/etc.
    There's multiple ways to get gear in this game and if dungeon gear was really that important, then it wouldn't be available for GC delivery in the first place. I think it's just overcomplicating things and it's not necessary since there's no cap on dungeon loot.
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    Wolf_Gang's Avatar
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    Ice Beam
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 17
    What SE really needs to do is rename the "Need" button so nubs stop taking it so damn literal.
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    So... you were mocked and proved wrong in the other thread you decided to start a new one with an even worse suggestion??? Maybe you should spend more time playing.
    But not with me.
    please
    awful.
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    Youkulm's Avatar
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    Arle Egress
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
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    No. Worst idea ever. My need for GC seals & desynth levels is just as great as someone's ilvl. You don't get to decide what other's needs are based on your ideals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    no, please stop asking for a basic function to be more complex then needed.

    if you want the loot for gear/glamour/anything

    go as that job or go with friends in a pre-made group, or ask to have that gear.

    as i stated my g/f saying:
    ff11 had a free-for-all loot system. What ff14 has is better.

    to add: this suggestion also punishes free companies just starting out. You need to rank up a free company to do much of anything, and 1 of the faster ways to get ranks/fc points is gear trade ins to grand companies. my g/f worked her butt off as a tank to help out runs, and get tank loot to trade in to rank up her fc. took her nearly a mnth to hit rank 6 to buy a fc house. Now she is saving her tank gil, to buy us a house. (goblin got tons of housing btw)

    this suggestion if in game would have punished her, as our fc is just 3 people and she is the only 1 on everyday.


    loosing a roll happens, get over it.

    my g/f says: in ff11 she lost a drop from a 78 hour pop hnm, used in a quest for a then must have monk belt. the item has a low drop rate and claiming these things was hectic. She would have gotten the drop if people rolled faster and her family didn't stupidly unplug the internet for a reset. She was lucky to have a buddy in a hunt LS willing to throw her some help. She got over it though. Much like everyone else.
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    Last edited by BigRed5392; 03-07-2017 at 09:42 AM.

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    Mholi'to Lihzeh
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    loosing a roll happens, get over it.
    There is loosing a roll due to luck of the draw. Then there is loosing a roll due to someone who doesn't give a rat's behind about that particular item deciding that the 800 seals they could get from it is important enough to completely remove your chance of getting a 30 ilevel increase for one of the other jobs you're leveling at the same time.
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    There is loosing a roll due to luck of the draw. Then there is loosing a roll due to someone who doesn't give a rat's behind about that particular item deciding that the 800 seals they could get from it is important enough to completely remove your chance of getting a 30 ilevel increase for one of the other jobs you're leveling at the same time.
    Why is your off-job more important than my 800 seals? Those seals are useful to me - I use them to fund my Squadrons, pay for Ventures, buy crafting materials, and so on and so forth. There's no reason I should feel any obligation to sacrifice my own indirect progression in favor of your direct progression (if gearing an off-job can even be considered direct progression).
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    LuckiGoLucki's Avatar
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    Nyello Nandee
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    Ultros
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    There is loosing a roll due to luck of the draw. Then there is loosing a roll due to someone who doesn't give a rat's behind about that particular item deciding that the 800 seals they could get from it is important enough to completely remove your chance of getting a 30 ilevel increase for one of the other jobs you're leveling at the same time.
    You don't get to decide which is more important. A need is a need. He needs those seals for something and yea it is "important enough" to remove your chance of getting it.
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