[SUGGESTION] Modify the function of "Need" option for loot

[Ryel]

All other cases of using gear loot (Grand Company expert delivery, desynthesis, selling, discarding) are not specific to any job/class. Therefore, providing the same "Need" option for these cases is not justified.

I am really sorry, but seeing that you have no valid point (or even an attempt to make one) against my reasoning, I can only see these comments as irrelevant to the matter I am suggesting :

Well actually my point does refute your reasoning you just don't actually want to hear it however if you need it more clearly spelled out for you I can elaborate.

As a main tank there is little to no incentive for me to run almost anything in the Duty Finder as it is seeing as the "adventurer in need" bonus is so insignificant it might as well not be there. In reality the case is that 9 out of 10 times if I actually need a dungeon for any reason (Ex roulette, Relic, WT) I can easily go solo, with people from my FC, my friends, or anyone from various Linkshells instead of actually using the Duty Finder if I really wanted to.

In the case that I need company seals however the DF is a viable option as I can go in as a tank and lot uncontested on tank gear which I can then turn into seals to be used for any number of things related to progression (crafting / relic). If i'm leveling a DPS and I need gear for that specific job then I queue as the job and roll the dice on the lots regardless of whether my competition needs it for seals, stats, or glamour.

The game itself has determined that the needs between classes are not the same given the ratio of DPS to Healer and Tank queues, you can ask anyone that has spent more than 5 minutes as a DPS class about this.

Why exactly are the needs of a NIN/DRG/MNK/MCH/BRD/BLM/SMN who doesn't want or is unable to tank or heal the same content equal when it comes to the same piece of equipment to a person actually performing those roles?

If anything why should that healer or tank now even bother doing anything in the Duty Finder as that role with random players if they don't even get to use the gear that drops for whatever form of progression they choose?

I can solo the majority of ARR dungeons as a tank already, why would I even bother using the DF as a tank for anything under Dusk Vigil if at this point it's now charity work because the game has decided that everyone has equal dibs on all roles gear even if they aren't going to play the role?

If you want a specific piece of gear for a specific job then by all means feel free to level (and play) that job in the content that drops it. Otherwise the freedom to enter the content as whatever you wish is the tradeoff you pay when it comes to lotting gear.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I can easily go solo, with people from my FC, my friends, or anyone from various Linkshells instead of actually using the Duty Finder if I really wanted to.
I can solo the majority of ARR dungeons as a tank already, why would I even bother using the DF as a tank for anything under Dusk Vigil if at this point it's now charity work because the game has decided that everyone has equal dibs on all roles gear even if they aren't going to play the role?

Actually Ryel with his idea you wouldn't even be able to do that, as all that gear you grabbed would have to be spiritbound apart from gear you could greed on :P

You don't have to equip it immediately, and you shouldn't if it's a downgrade!

Hmmm yes they would as they would need to spiritbond it. Did you even read your own idea?

[RaijinSupreme]

Reasoning


I am really sorry, but seeing that you have no valid point (or even an attempt to make one) against my reasoning, I can only see these comments as irrelevant to the matter I am suggesting :

Sooo the entire thread is irrelevant. Can't argue with that, seeing as there's another thread that has heavily discussed this topic.

[Natashio]

If gear loot is acquired by rolling "Need", then:

1. Flag it as unsellable, non-discardable, ineligible for GC turn‑ins, and ineligible for desynthesis.
2. Remove the flags when they reach 10% to 100% spiritbond.

The use of gear loot for the class/job a player is playing is either:

• equipping it, or
• using it for glamour

All other cases of using gear loot (Grand Company expert delivery, desynthesis, selling, discarding) are not specific to any job/class. Therefore, providing the same "Need" option for these cases is not justified.

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope...nope.. I think I reached the necessary text minium to post... and nope nope... I wish I can express harsh things, so there for, I shall keep it to myself..

[Dualgunner]

HAH did you just put the whole thread in quotes?! XD

I'd judge based on the overwhelming negative response either you haven't worded what you want well and people aren't understanding, or people do understand and just think your idea is unnecessary.

[Istaru]

Are we trying to set a Guinness World Record for most idiotic posts in some period of time or something?

[SokiYagami]

Are we trying to set a Guinness World Record for most idiotic posts in some period of time or something?

LOL! You sir, just made my day.

Let's take a quick look, we recently have a thread that:

1. declare that using macro for battle is the better way to play the game and naysayers are simply bad at it
2. slander SE for plagiarism in Stormblood because the roe NPC looks like the panda in WoW (I think the OP of that thread got banned from the forum)
3. some weird obsession between the instances cleared to commendation ratio

and probably a couple more odd threads here and there... yeah, FFXIV might be getting a new record lol.

Back on topic, OP, nope.

[Yudzster]

LOL! You sir, just made my day.

Let's take a quick look, we recently have a thread that:

1. declare that using macro for battle is the better way to play the game and naysayers are simply bad at it
2. slander SE for plagiarism in Stormblood because the roe NPC looks like the panda in WoW (I think the OP of that thread got banned from the forum)
3. some weird obsession between the instances cleared to commendation ratio

Xyno got banned? NOOOOO one of my forum source of enjoyment ;_;

[Kingmanath]

slander SE for plagiarism in Stormblood because the roe NPC looks like the panda in WoW

Ahahahahahhahah thank you for the fun

[Settiesama]

If gear loot is acquired by rolling "Need", then:

1. Flag it as unsellable, non-discardable, ineligible for GC turn‑ins, and ineligible for desynthesis.
2. Remove the flags when they reach 10% to 100% spiritbond.

The use of gear loot for the class/job a player is playing is either:

• equipping it, or
• using it for glamour

All other cases of using gear loot (Grand Company expert delivery, desynthesis, selling, discarding) are not specific to any job/class. Therefore, providing the same "Need" option for these cases is not justified.

TL;DR: Please punish those who need seals, desynths etc. So that I may gear up a job I'm not gonna use.

Why should everyone be punished like this? Clearly you do not understand just what seals and all can be used for, and wanna know what that is? Something that can be used for equipping/Glamour in the long run! So in a way, you ARE still needing for what you said. So yes, have your bloody answer to that section.