Thread: [Dev] ilevel to enter a DF is not enough. ALL DF need requrements. 4.0 reminder.

Originally Posted by Nixxe

Basically OP is throwing a fit because either they or "their friend" is stressed out by having to actually heal occasionally (and this has come up in several threads via anecdotes with laughable examples), and the entire game needs to be catered to their idiosyncratic psychological needs, lest they ever have to actually do their job and not just be a DPS with an instant queue.

You do realize how much HP is lost when a tank doesn't where the proper gear right? It's the whole reason VIT became the main stat of tanks as they added dmg to their main weapons instead of having tanks use STR and VIT because it only caused more unnecessary stress on the healers.

A basic example, any gear lacking VIT=0HP added. So crafting gear does pretty much nothing for tanks. No secondaries, no main attributes, nothing. Now let's take a quick look at proper gear i150 left side gear. We'll do NQ and HQ, so we got, 56/62, 35/38, 35/38, 26/29, 38/38 and 56/62. So with just left side that is about 3.2k +HP and 3.4k +HP. But that's not all, it's not just HP, it's also Defense and magic Defense.

If a person is wearing craft gear on their left side.

Just focus on HQ for this one, but the tank gear has 300/214/214/186/214/300 compared to 46/86/86/86/120/120.

So you gotta consider this.

If a tank has a base HP of 5k using crafting gear giving them a total of 544 physical defense compared to a tank using fell left HQ gear would be 8.4k HP and 1428 physical defense.

You aren't just going in with less HP, but less defense, you can't look at that and say OP is being unfair or crying about needing to heal more,it's not about healing more it's about how nearly impossible it is to keep someone alive in that situation because a fully geared DPS wearing the proper gear in that instance would be able to tank better than a tank wearing the wrong gear.

Originally Posted by Airget

You do realize how much HP is lost when a tank doesn't where the proper gear right? It's the whole reason VIT became the main stat of tanks as they added dmg to their main weapons instead of having tanks use STR and VIT because it only caused more unnecessary stress on the healers.

A basic example, any gear lacking VIT=0HP added. So crafting gear does pretty much nothing for tanks. No secondaries, no main attributes, nothing. Now let's take a quick look at proper gear i150 left side gear. We'll do NQ and HQ, so we got, 56/62, 35/38, 35/38, 26/29, 38/38 and 56/62. So with just left side that is about 3.2k +HP and 3.4k +HP. But that's not all, it's not just HP, it's also Defense and magic Defense.

If a person is wearing craft gear on their left side.

Just focus on HQ for this one, but the tank gear has 300/214/214/186/214/300 compared to 46/86/86/86/120/120.

So you gotta consider this.

If a tank has a base HP of 5k using crafting gear giving them a total of 544 physical defense compared to a tank using fell left HQ gear would be 8.4k HP and 1428 physical defense.

You aren't just going in with less HP, but less defense, you can't look at that and say OP is being unfair or crying about needing to heal more,it's not about healing more it's about how nearly impossible it is to keep someone alive in that situation because a fully geared DPS wearing the proper gear in that instance would be able to tank better than a tank wearing the wrong gear.

Dude, if someone is wearing crafting gear, kick them. Who cares? They can't do their job. OP has complained about everything from having a weapon even 1 ilvl under the average required for the dungeon, to having a couple lower level accessories, to plenty of other perfectly acceptable situations. There's being so poorly geared you're not being able to do your job and then there's annoying the anal retentive busybodies who can't figure out other players don't exist just to do whatever they want them to. Only the former is worth caring about, yet OP mostly falls into the category of said busybodies and tries to use a couple of rather extreme and undoubtedly rare examples to justify their entire litany of mostly trivial complaints.