Thread: [Dev] ilevel to enter a DF is not enough. ALL DF need requrements. 4.0 reminder.

Originally Posted by Talraen

So in order to do expert dungeons, you feel that you are required to have a weapon above the minimum item level (230) for those dungeons? And you expect everyone to do PvP, which some people hate, 7 times before they do that? That's a bit much. If you have a mix of poetics and lore gear, and a 210 weapon from seals, you're fine. Not everyone does Alexander or PvP, nor should we expect them to just to finish the MSQ.

Drop it to 230, which is what lore gear is. People shouldn't be able to queue into content with gear that doesn't reach the minimum ilvl. At least not to the extent we've seen examples of. Maybe 10-20 below? But what Miste demonstratively is a clear flaw in the system.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Drop it to 230, which is what lore gear is. People shouldn't be able to queue into content with gear that doesn't reach the minimum ilvl. At least not to the extent we've seen examples of. Maybe 10-20 below? But what Miste demonstratively is a clear flaw in the system.

In order to get a 230 weapon, you need to finish A8 four times, or be doing your Anima weapon. If someone doesn't do Alexander (and plenty of people don't, even normal) or the Anima quests, that's not really an option.

230 minimum item level does not mean that every single item needs to be 230, it means the average item has to be 230. I agree that people shouldn't be coming in to level 60 content with level 52 weapons, because the weapon is disproportionately important (and should probably be more heavily weighted in the ilvl calculation), but 210 is plenty for ilvl 230 content, assuming the rest of your gear brings your average item level to at least 230. (Which it obviously must if you're queuing at all.)