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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    There are a few implications here.

    WAR will now have access to rampart if it's a role skill, so will PLD and DRK get something equivalent to inner beast?
    Is this just for rampart to put some meat on the role skill bones or is this going to effect other skills with similar effects too? E.G. Will sentinel, vengeance and shadowskin be combined too? If so, which one will take priority? 30% mitigation or 40%? 3mins or 2 mins CD? Will all tanks gain the vengeance counterattack?
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    If they take away access to Internal Release imma cry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    If they take away access to Internal Release imma cry.
    I'm curious about how this will work too, IR and second wind are pretty great tools in the WAR arsenal. Stoneskin and protect in PLD's and those are a big part of its identity too, as the healing tank. So there must be something that's going to keep these tools in their kit.
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    I still don't understand what will doing this accomplish.

    Yes, at the core they are both pretty much the same skill, so does this mean WAR will have access to another flat percentage damage reduction skill on top of Inner Beast?

    Will other tanks get IB equivalence too?

    Will PLD finally be able to block magical damage?

    Will all tanks play pretty much the same except with different flavor?

    I just can't see where they are going with this.
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 03-07-2017 at 04:22 AM.

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    So... tanks will be getting homogenized, but I'm sure the devs still will find a way to make PLD weaker than the other two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    So... tanks will be getting homogenized, but I'm sure the devs still will find a way to make PLD weaker than the other two.
    Sentinel being merged with Shadow Wall. Please look forward to it.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    For tanks, they plan to do something (no specifics) about WAR OT.
    mmmmmm, well lets see.

    edit: well remember rampart is a 10% damage mitigation with a trait to become a 20%, so meaby means WAR are only going to get a 10% damage mitigation, meh how knows
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    Last edited by shao32; 03-07-2017 at 06:07 AM.

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    For some reason the more I think about the tank change the more I think that Foresight will become the -20% damage ability for all tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    For some reason the more I think about the tank change the more I think that Foresight will become the -20% damage ability for all tanks.
    If it does, I'm gonna rage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    There is zero change to button bloat, as each only ever had access to one of the two anyways. (Were there just too many terms in the game? Was this an attempt to battle bibliobloat?) How do the positives here possibly outweigh the negatives?
    I thought as much also, but please see this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    For some reason the more I think about the tank change the more I think that Foresight will become the -20% damage ability for all tanks.
    If my theory is correct, that is the "fix" (please note I am using this term VERY loosely) to some button bloat. Allowing Drk and Pld to just use Foresight (which will have the same effect) and thereby freeing up the Shadowskin and Rampart button... that is assuming you even cross class foresight in the first place. The more I think about it though, the more I think Foresight is going to become THE 20% damage reduction button.
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