Should the Heavensward Leveling dungeons and trials have item level requirements?

[Dzian]

100 for Dusk Vigil +7 for every duty
107 for Thok ast Thok and Sohm Al
114 The Aery
121 for Limitless Blue
128 for The Vault
135 for Gubal

would line up pretty well with the previouse upgrade steps from ARR (+10) and ARF and its 142 (another +7 from Gubal)

I'd probably lower that a little in regards to the vault and the library.

130 for the library is fine. You can do the library in full augmented ironworks and it's not a problem. the only class that might want to change gear a bit is the tanks cos the def boost on the 58 gear is a big jump. but the rest of the stats aren't much different between the i142 level 58 stuff and the i130 augmented iron works. you wouldn't really notice the difference between using like augmented iron works bow and the level 58 birch bow for example.

its why so many people went all the way to 60 in aug ironworks / dreadwrym because it wasn't worth worrying about gear till 60.. you level so fast anyway the time you spend getting gear you could have levelled past it anyway.

[wicked-one]

But going in with ilvl 12 in Gubal is just ridicolous.

[Ama_Hamada]

I'd probably lower that a little in regards to the vault and the library.

130 for the library is fine. You can do the library in full augmented ironworks and it's not a problem. the only class that might want to change gear a bit is the tanks cos the def boost on the 58 gear is a big jump. but the rest of the stats aren't much different between the i142 level 58 stuff and the i130 augmented iron works. you wouldn't really notice the difference between using like augmented iron works bow and the level 58 birch bow for example.

its why so many people went all the way to 60 in aug ironworks / dreadwrym because it wasn't worth worrying about gear till 60.. you level so fast anyway the time you spend getting gear you could have levelled past it anyway.

it is a good list though but ya, i agree.
100 for Dusk Vigil +7 for every duty
107 for Thok ast Thok and Sohm Al
114 The Aery
120 for Limitless Blue
120 for The Vault
130 for Gubal

[Pintsized]

My question is should the Heavensward Leveling dungeons and trials have item level requirements in the future?

No!

Why put gating on obsolete content when it didn't have when 'current'?

[Legion88]

I looked at existing min ilvl restrictions from the endgame dungeons in comparsion with their dropping ilvl.
ARR: min ilvl is always 10 below the dropping ilvl
HW: min ilvl is always 15 below the dropping ilvl
From this perspective someone could say that the ilvl difference between the dropping and the min ilvl should slowly increase from 10 to 15 or just be in the average of 12 to 13 for every duty.
Example list for treating min ilvl like ARR/HW/12/13
110/105/108/107 for Dusk Vigil
120/115/118/117 for Sohm Al + Thok ast Thok
126/121/124/123 for The Aery
129/124/127/126 for Limitless Blue
132/127/130/129 for The Vault
138/133/136/135 for Great Gubal Library

In my personal opinion i would suggest the HW kind of ilvl difference, cause they are HW dungeons.

No!

Why put gating on obsolete content when it didn't have when 'current'?

Leveling is always 'current'.

[Ama_Hamada]

No!

Why put gating on obsolete content when it didn't have when 'current'?

Because it should have it and NEEDS it for current!
Because the game requires you to have so much hp, so on to actually pass though it, that is why.

[RokkuEkkusu]

I'm going to revive this thread because there are a few more things I wanted to bring up. This is to complement/supplement a similar thread about one asking for item level requirements in leveling dungeons.

Before Heavensward, 4 level 50 dungeons did NOT have item level requirements. They were Castrum Meridianum, The Praetorium, The Wanderer's Palace, and Amdapor Keep. They were given item level requirements by the time the expansion came out (42 for the first 2, 45 for the latter 2).

I would have expected the Heavensward Leveling dungeons to get the same item level requirement treatment if the situation of undergeared party members got out of hand. One reason is because Snowcloak and The Keeper of the Lake are required to be cleared BEFORE one can enter the Heavensward Leveling Dungeons. Keep in mind that Snowcloak and The Keeper of the Lake have item level requirements (80 and 90 respectively).

Now that Stormblood is out and the one guaranteed gear drop per clear in a level 51-59 dungeon occurs, I wanted to see more opinions on this topic.

[Coatl]

I once queued for Gubal Library on my 59 tank with full ironworks. I leveled it purely from leveling roulettes and for some reason it didn't cross my mind that I could be in such a scenario. Well anyway I told the party and they were nice enough to take it slow, but I still think it'd be a step in the right direction to let you que for roulettes but exclude dungeons that aren't in your ilevel range.

Of course there comes the potential exploits and loopholes that come along with that.

[Saiah]

I agree, but it shouldnt be too strict. Like having above ilvl 100 for HW content and +230 for SB. This is perfectly manageable for any player that isnt braindead since quests give you the needed gear and vendors sell it too. Itll prevent the occasional confused Travolta that stumbles into Dusk Vigil with a ilvl 47 weapon to name an example.

[Urthdigger]

Yes please, and on Stormblood leveling dungeons too. Ilvl 115 tanks in Bardam's Mettle make me cry ;_;