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    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    Dev time is a limited resource. You obviously have no idea what kind of effort goes into producing a game of this scale and quality.
    I can guarantee 99.9% of players would rather have new playable content instead of glasses that fit perfectly on their toon's nose or hair that doesn't clip.
    If you don't like it, cancel your sub and go play something else that suits your own personal taste in graphics.
    I love it when people make up statistics on the spot as if they are simply fact. That aside, it's people like this with their blind zealotry and " they can do no wrong" attitude that plague online communities. No one is allowed to voice concerns or they'll be shot down. Just imagine if no one complained about 1.0 and just accepted it because you know, that's just the way it is. There is always room for improvement and I hope minor issues continue to get fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerion View Post
    Just imagine if no one complained about 1.0 and just accepted it...
    But they didn't. It was so bad, many people unsubbed. It didn't fail because people bitched about it. ARR didn't happen because people bitched about it.
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    I think you might have missed the point. Many of the things in ARR were due to feedback. Did you know there was a debate about whether jumping should or shouldn't exist in 2.0+? Yea, there was a whole group of people on the side of "it's just how it is, if you like jumping go play WoW" but many of us stayed with the game and combated such crappy feedback. Solid feedback gets things changed, saying that it's just the way things are and to deal with it or leave pretty much negates a reason for you to comment at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerion View Post
    I think you might have missed the point. Many of the things in ARR were due to feedback. Did you know there was a debate about whether jumping should or shouldn't exist in 2.0+? Yea, there was a whole group of people on the side of "it's just how it is, if you like jumping go play WoW" but many of us stayed with the game and combated such crappy feedback. Solid feedback gets things changed, saying that it's just the way things are and to deal with it or leave pretty much negates a reason for you to comment at all.
    That's them voicing their own feedback that they want things to remain as they are.
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroboy View Post
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    As much as I hate Kotaku: This is worth the read.

    Basically, FFXIV ARR was made for a wider audience (including PS3). Graphics will improve, but don't expect super crisp things.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Any of us here knows how the game engine works? How many time they have to create content? How many time takes make a single object (and it is not modelling, also scripts programming, place in the world without causing bug, etc)? I think people in this forum just think developers sit in front of a computer and tell them "Do this" and magic do it. Things has a reason be like this. And performance is more important than graphics on a MMO.

    Before complain because yes, just think that maybe there is a reason to be like this. it is not the same ask for a gameplay feature than complain about the graphic engine. Because the first one can be considered, the second one is a more complex thing.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 03-05-2017 at 07:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Any of us here knows how the game engine works? How many time they have to create content?
    development will never catch up with timeless ppl grinding out every single bit of a update patch
    3.0 make a bad start giving 3 jobs and new race, now when 4.0 introduce ppl are complaining about only 2 dps and no new race
    i m more happy to see patch fixing issue/glitch, bringing balance, upgrading graphics etc than keep pumping out new content
    i think we should all appreciate when dev is giving out new patch constantly, but i say it is time to fix thing before giving new thing
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    I agree that FFXIV summons could be remodeled to look better and actually more representative of the actual primals. Ifirit-egi is pretty much a flaming cockroach, Titan-egi is a glorified chicken nugget, and Garuda-Egi is incomprehensible.

    But if people are groaning this much about them more for their size instead of their actual design, then I kinda hope that SE actually DOES grant them their wish and make them much larger in scale. Only for it to backfire so hard that people outright ban Summoners from raid compositions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    But if people are groaning this much about them more for their size instead of their actual design, then I kinda hope that SE actually DOES grant them their wish and make them much larger in scale. Only for it to backfire so hard that people outright ban Summoners from raid compositions.
    Its both for me. The designs are just awful, as you said, its pretty hard to see what the egi representation is trying to be. And the size is also a problem, but I could live with the minion versions rather than what we have now. I was kinda hoping we would have been able to glamour the minion instead of different coloured carby's... I know its better than nothing but that egi glamour was an epic disappointment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    But if people are groaning this much about them more for their size instead of their actual design, then I kinda hope that SE actually DOES grant them their wish and make them much larger in scale.
    They could have started by making their unique LB3 an actual summoning. I mean, Summons were usually just giant nukes in the series and seeing as Meteor hides the boss, mechanics, indicators and everything else under its shiny, eye cancer inducing glory, they had free reign here >_>
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