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  1. #11
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    I honestly believe they never will work on it simply because they can't come up with a lore behind it that would make sense. While the lore for retainers and storage is established. Since here every basic MMO function is locked behind some form of lore.

    Bank storage retainer: Lore
    Armor Dye: Lore
    Transmogging: Lore
    Housing: Lore
    Character re-customization: Lore

    Yes I'm happily in the boat of those that would gladly throw any lore reason out the window for convenience, QoL, and more streamlined systems.
    It's not hard to justify these sorts of things when magic exists. You could just be given a magical tome and at the cost of the item in question (or perhaps just some catalyst) you could imprint its aetheric signature in the tome for later use. Highlighting the magical qualities of the tome, it seems that it always has just the number of pages you need.
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    Mide Uyagir
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    WildStar's holowardrobe, Rift's wardrobe storage, WoW's transmog collections, GW2's account wardrobe... So many examples of this and it works beautifully. Meanwhile, my two retainers, amoury, and inventory are bursting at the seams with glamour gear stored for all the different jobs. :/ SE's more interested in renting out inventory like the cruddiest of cruddy f2p mmos than truly fixing the problem though - at least it sure seems that way sometimes.
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    DCUO had the best system for this. Simply obtain the gear, BOOM, the appearance is saved. No item needed, nothing.
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    Technical reasons prevent SE from doing a glamour "closet" the way we'd like... but that doesn't mean an alternative couldn't be implemented within existing game code.

    What if there was a Glamour Vendor that worked the same way the Calamity Vendor does. Any item appearance you have acquired gets unlocked on this vendor so you can use the appearance, get rid of the original item, and re-buy a binding (non-tradeable/non-sellable) version of it from the Glamour Vendor any time you need to re-glamour. In this way an existing mechanic is used (the calamity vendor code) and we aren't forced to tie up precious inventory space with our glamour gear.
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    Last edited by Nicodemus_Mercy; 03-05-2017 at 09:02 PM.
    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    It's not hard to justify these sorts of things when magic exists. You could just be given a magical tome and at the cost of the item in question (or perhaps just some catalyst) you could imprint its aetheric signature in the tome for later use. Highlighting the magical qualities of the tome, it seems that it always has just the number of pages you need.
    I'll take that as a reason. That works for me. I had thought of a thing like a closet in a house or apartment or inn room as an alternative. For housing storage, attic time.
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    It'd be nice to have really but they keep going on about inventory space.. What bothers me more is we know they can do it to a degree as they've just gone and done it with the PvP Garo Gear on the Calamity Salvager..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    SE's more interested in renting out inventory like the cruddiest of cruddy f2p mmos than truly fixing the problem though - at least it sure seems that way sometimes.
    That's the one thing that's always kinda irked me about this game. Even in FTP games, if I buy extra storage, it's mine forever regardless if I'm active or inactive for short or long periods of time. It will always be there waiting for me to come back. As far as I know FFXIV is the only game that rents space as part of a monthly fee. It's always left this really sour and bad taste in my mouth.
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    Last edited by Aylis; 03-05-2017 at 10:50 PM. Reason: character limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    It's not hard to justify these sorts of things when magic exists. You could just be given a magical tome and at the cost of the item in question (or perhaps just some catalyst) you could imprint its aetheric signature in the tome for later use. Highlighting the magical qualities of the tome, it seems that it always has just the number of pages you need.
    I'll present the compromise:

    Fashionista
    The Quest
    Redolent Rose gives you a quest involving the imminent coming of a world-famous fashion guru. Someone who seems to have a reputation for turning complete fashion disasters into the epitome of chic and style with very little effort. Your task is to ensure the fashionista makes it from the airship landing in Ul'dah all the way to the weaver's guild, as she has a tendency of getting...distracted by the commonfolk.

    You run to the airship landing to find Lola, assistant to the fashionista, who is in a panic since the fashionista herself vanished not long after landing in Ul'dah. So now you have to run around the city looking to find her. You can tell where she's been by interacting with NPCs that have peculiar outfits who comment about how they were saved by the fashionista. This eventually leads you to a cutscene of a group of people being lectured by a teenage girl in a gothic lolita outfit. When you intervene, she makes a comment about your own lack of fashion sense and introduces herself as Brygid.

    Brygid sees something in you that she calls a "potential long term project", and when your character acts confused, she waves off your concerns and demands to be taken to Redolent Rose at the Weaver's Guild. When you get there, you have a conversation explaining that Brygid was contracted by one of Ul'dah's merchant families (Lola comes running in mid-cutscene, and it's made pretty clear Brygid doesn't think much of her assistant).

    After the business is done, Brygid declares you a walking fashion disaster, and one that will take a long time to sort out. As such, she offers her services at a discounted price, so that she ensures that you don't embarrass yourself. Lola steps in to explain that for Brygid to harness her creative energies, she requires her clients to have a wardrobe of their own. Part of the service would include recording and storing items traded to Brygid, keeping a sort of log of all visible equipment you own and/or have acquired. The service also includes use of glamour prisms to ensure you're up to date on your fashion by storing glamour prisms for you or applying glamour effects on your equipped items at a cost.

    The System
    - Brygid can be summoned using the same bell you use to summon Jandelaine. You'll have the choices of summoning Jandelaine or Brygid when interacting with the bell.
    - Unlike Jandelaine, Brygid will charge you 250 gil per time she is summoned. She'd call this a "consultation fee".
    - You can trade equipment you want on your "glamour log" to Brygid. You may also store glamour prisms for each type of equipment by trading those to Brygid. Items stored are essentially lost forever, and will be set to their original color. Glamour prisms that are stored will be consumed as you apply glamour on your equipment.
    - If you don't have a glamour prism on your inventory or storage, Brygid will still be able to apply a glamour, but charge you 10,000 gil per application.
    - Dyes are applied during the glamour process; the dyes themselves must be in your inventory during the glamour process.
    - The order would be: Pick item to be glamoured => get a prompt saying "Would you like to apply a dye to this glamour?" => finalize and glamour your chosen item.
    - There would obviously be achievements for having Brygid log a certain number of items, with title rewards like "the Fashion-conscious" for trading 20 pieces of equipment to Brygid.
    - In addition to all this, you may still keep items on your inventory to glamour on your own with the currently-existing system.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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