[Dev Request] Roulette adjustments

[AmalonStar]

Ok so now over the last while or so I've been noticing various threads about dungeons and trials especially ones having to do with the main story quests and newer players having difficulty completing them or really long que times to get into them.


I'm going to list a few roulettes I feel adjustments should be made to and what those adjustments should be to better gameplay.

Duty Roulette: Level 60 dungeons
- This roulette should be available to all players that have 2+ lv 60 dungeons unlocked/completed instead of being locked behind a wall of dungeons needing to be unlocked, this is very discouraging to new players.

Duty Roulette: Level 50 Dungeons
- This should also be available to everyone that has 2+ lv 50 dungeons unlocked, again very discouraging to new players looking at a wall of ????'s of dungeons to unlock to get it.

Duty Roulette: Main Scenario
- This roulette has only 2 main quest dungeons available why is that? This roulette should include [B]all[B] main scenario/story quest dungeons and trials or at least all of the ones that are lv 50+ this would help all the new/returning players get through the main story quests. this should also be available to everyone with 2+ dungeons/trials completed.

Duty Roulette: Mentor
- Now the idea behind this roulette is for mentors to help new/returning players in dungeons and ect. but it is also locked behind a wall of needing to have every dungeon/trial/raid ever made in the game. Not all new/returning players ask for a mentors help when trying to do a dungeon/trial/raid how are us mentors able to help those players? Mentor roulette would be one way but that only works for mentors that have been playing the game for years and have done everything. This roulette should be unlocked for all mentors to help out new/returning players for the content they do have unlocked, locking mentors out from it doesn't help new/returning players.

If anyone has any other suggestions to improve the roulettes please do make your suggestions, and anyone that agrees some of these changes should get made please do 'like' posts.

[Nicobo]

No worry, Yoshida heard you and the jump potion will resolve it... ^^;

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5. All dungeons implemented up to Patch 2.55 will be set as cleared.

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Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Boost-Potions

[AmalonStar]

That would only work for those that actually pay whatever the high price those jump potions are going to be. That and from what you posted that will only be stuff up to patch 2.55.

Adjustments still need to get made to roulettes in my opinion, they should be available to everyone that has 2+ dungeons cleared in that set roulette. The main scenario still only has 2 dungeons to it so unless there is only 2 msq dungeons in the game it is missing a whole bunch.

As for mentor roulette it should be available to all mentors, I've had to 'clear' some content to keep it unlocked that I've only done once and unless I get it in the roulette don't plan on doing again. Like the last 2 sets if Alex, ran those simply to get the 'clear' because it was required to unlock the roulette but doesn't mean I know the mechanics if it all by memory.

[Nicobo]

...Adjustments still need to get made to roulettes in my opinion, they should be available to everyone that has 2+ dungeons cleared in that set roulette. The main scenario still only has 2 dungeons to it so unless there is only 2 msq dungeons in the game it is missing a whole bunch.....

For 50/60, most dungeons are unlocked via storys or side storys, will it be logical if a new player suddenly get into a future dungeon (via roulette) and watch the future CS?

[RokkuEkkusu]

Duty Roulette: Level 50 Dungeons
- This should also be available to everyone that has 2+ lv 50 dungeons unlocked, again very discouraging to new players looking at a wall of ????'s of dungeons to unlock to get it.

This was actually done back in 2.1 when the level 50 dungeon roulette first came out. However, Pharos Sirius was too hard for many in comparison to Copperbell mines (Hard) and Haukke Manor (Hard), that people deliberately did not unlock Pharos (and Copperbell Hard to a smaller extent) so they could get dungeons Haukke Manor (Hard) or Wanderer's Palace only. As a result, the requirements changed to unlocking AND completing all dungeons within the level 50 roulette as of 2.2.

[AmalonStar]

For 50/60, most dungeons are unlocked via storys or side storys, will it be logical if a new player suddenly get into a future dungeon (via roulette) and watch the future CS?

Well majority of the lv 50 dungeons are all side quests, aside from the first 2 lv 50 dungeons you get through msq's there is snowcloak and keeper of the lake that are msq's and I think those are the only other 2. Reading the persons post below yours I can understand why they locked the lv 50 roulette.

But to answer your question even with the roulette being unlocked you can't do a dungeon you haven't unlocked, it would be like joining a party that is doing a dungeon you don't have unlocked it won't allow the leader to que the dungeon.

[AmalonStar]

I can understand why roulettes get locked like they are if ppl have purposely avoided unlocking ones they didn't like so they wouldn't have to do them.

I think the mentor roulette should still be the exception due to the purpose of it. Can't help any new players for content they're que'd for if mentors can't do the roulette because it's locked. Any newer mentors that have come about since the mentor system came around would still be looking at a wall of content to unlock it, that roulette is ment to help players with the new or returning status do content and the more mentors hat are able to do it the better.

[Rongway]

I can understand why roulettes get locked like they are if ppl have purposely avoided unlocking ones they didn't like so they wouldn't have to do them.

I think the mentor roulette should still be the exception due to the purpose of it.

The mentor roulette would suffer a similar exploit, which would be all the more lame because it gives progress toward a fabulous two-seater armored pegasus mount. Anyone who hasn't unlocked and suffered through the entirety of the really annoying DF experiences like Aurum Vale and Heart of the Creator with four new people should not have access to a mount-granting roulette.

[Elamys]

Mentors are supposed to be very knowledgeable about the game. It only makes sense that it should be a requirement for mentors to clear the major content in order to have access to a system that is ultimately meant to be a way for them to help people learn the dungeons.

Keep in mind you're still not required to clear the 24 mans or Coils to do the roulette, only the dungeons, trials, and guildhests. You are also not required to do Heavensward extreme primals. That is really not that much at all.

[AmalonStar]

Keep in mind you're still not required to clear the 24 mans or Coils to do the roulette, only the dungeons, trials, and guildhests. You are also not required to do Heavensward extreme primals. That is really not that much at all.

I would need to check the list to be sure but the only content you're not required to do to unlock the mentor roulette is the coils everything else you need to have including 24 man raids and extreme primals.

Mentors are NOT supposed to be EXTREMELY knowledgeable about everything. If that is a requirement then majority if not all the mentors in the game are not fit to hold the title.

Mentors are supposed to share the knowledge they do have about the aspects of the game they do know.