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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So there is a reason why tanks get them or healers because they just simply are needed more in most of the instances in the game.

    Why this is so hard to understand is beyond me considering all the things posted on this forum everyday what I am asking is very valid for someone who may want to hold value to commendations.
    First: So you're admitting that tank and heals dont get them because they're performing very good but because they're more needed - so to repeat again to you: Commendations arent judging your performance so much but an overall appereance.
    I would guess that I got 50% of my commendations simply because I was the tank, 25% because of my looks and 25% because I was chatting and making the run more pleasent for everyone.

    Second: Full-group dungeons shouldnt count then either, right? Because you cant get a commendation at the end. (And really, you should get rid of those horrible, horrible friends making you run dungeons with them - how... insenstive of them!)

    Third: And please, please explain this finally: Why do you believe this weird "ratio" of yours should be 1:1? That is sololey based on the assumption that you'll get (or deserve) one commendation each run you're doing - so out of seven people in a trial you're playing good enough to impress one but not the other six... I'd say this 1:6 commendation ratio there should tell you: Way to go, buddy!

    Upholding this weird idea of a 1:1 ratio is only going to make you unhappy about a topic no one really cares about - personally I dont tie commendations to duties that strictly. But I also view my commendations as a "Thank you for being a pleasent companion" and not as "You did well in this run" - I got 3.600 "Thank yous"; I didnt do 3.600 good runs. THAT is the value of commendations - the amount of people who enjoyed playing with you, for whatever reason. Simply your job (because they were so happy they got a tank after waiting for 30 minutes that they didnt care about the performance anymore), your glamour, your jokes, your explantions, and maybe, once in a while, your performance. Commendations arent school-grades a teacher gives you - they're the little notes and hugs from your classmates saying "Thanks!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    First: So you're admitting that tank and heals dont get them because they're performing very good but because they're more needed - so to
    Like I mention earlier 9 times out of 10 if I cause a wipe and Im the tank Im not gettin a commendation so if you screw up and dont get a commendation thats clearly a judge on performance not just someone handing stuff out. I dont just hand out commendations if the healer causes us to wipe ten times then they are not gettin anything, I said in my above post that sure people give fluff commendations.


    But most of the time at least , well I know I do and my friends give them based on if you did your job well in the dungeon not off of glamour. Im not lookin at what people are wearing in dungeons , Im there to get tomes or commendations or gear, this community isnt that friendly so to think that people give them just because is unrealistic.

    And no its not a 1 to 1 ratio but if you are a good tank or healer and you run any content if you didnt have unsync runs clouding your instances you would or should have more commendations than instances based on role and performance, dps are just there like I said you could easily take one blm put them in any instance or dungeon aside from trail and clear every dungeon in the game just fine.

    You cant have 3 dps and a healer or 1 tank and three dps and clear hardly anything in the game. So its a mixture of both performance and playing important roles in the game, to think people just are so nice they are just giving out commendations because your there is just simply not true. Because they will surely let you no when your screwing up , so why would they not let you know if your doing your job correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    so why would they not let you know if your doing your job correctly.
    What have you been taking and where can I get some? There are a lot of people, in game and out, who will see people doing their job correctly and just ignore that fact. In this case, leave instantly without saying thanks or in general leave without giving any commendation to anyone. Not everyone gives out commendations like you do, your mindset is not the same as everyone else's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    And no its not a 1 to 1 ratio
    Hold onto THIS thought and make it your new mantra: There is no 1:1 dungeon:commendation ratio. Say it with me! "There is no 1:1 ratio!"

    The rest of your post was just a lot of "but I do it like this" and you have to realise that just because you do something its not the meta.

    Commendations do mean something - but that something isnt "Hey, you're really good at this game!" but "Hey, I enjoyed playing with you (at least enough to klick your name in this list here)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Commendations do mean something - but that something isnt "Hey, you're really good at this game!" but "Hey, I enjoyed playing with you (at least enough to klick your name in this list here)"
    You missed the "I'm clicking you because I need challenge log and you're the random name I picked"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    But most of the time at least , well I know I do and my friends give them based on if you did your job well in the dungeon not off of glamour. Im not lookin at what people are wearing in dungeons , Im there to get tomes or commendations or gear, this community isnt that friendly so to think that people give them just because is unrealistic.
    And I know my friends give them out for other reasons.

    1. I'll comm a bard who gave me foe's. Their overall DPS might not be great, but they used foe's.
    2. There's a new person and they gave us a second chance point.
    3. Ninja used Trick Attack. (You wouldn't believe how uncommon this is.)
    4. Person was pleasant to be around.

    Frame of reference is important here. You're talking about your friends, I'm talking about mine. Neither are a representation of the community on a whole. People comm for different reasons. Sometimes it's to pat you on the back, sometimes it can be an appreciation for something small, others it can be challenge log.
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