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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    I do not think she understands how no meaning?nonexistant meaning? a ratio would be for getting mentor.

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    Im already a mentor , I got it through crafting but now I have both requirements I already had the comms just never did 1000 instances. But all I have said this whole time is just make them seperate, thats all that way it would only count dungeons , guild heist potd, raids etc you do normally. Instead of irrelevant runs that may just be used to farm stuff or something like that. I just dont see why it counts really , because you could literally do 100 unsync instances a peice for tank months and why should that count , I dont really understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Im already a mentor , I got it through crafting but now I have both requirements I already had the comms just never did 1000 instances. But all I have said this whole time is just make them separate, that's all that way it would only count dungeons , guild heist potd, raids etc you do normally. Instead of irrelevant runs that mayjust be used to farm stuff or something like that. I just dont see why it counts really , because you could literally do 100 unsync instances a peice for tank months and why should that count , I dont really understand that.
    And what everyone has been asking you, including me, is why does it matter. Keep in mind the list I gave that I quoted myself on. As some suggested just seems a very weird ocd issue. You do a dungeon, doing a level 15-17 dungeon that takes 20 mins to do as a level 15, or as a level 60 that takes 8 mins to do. Why does it matter if one counts and the other does not? Should not matter if the unsync counts? at some point you need to accept people are throwing up their arms and going "OMG who the hell caaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrres"

    No one here really understands why you want this to be separate or why there is a real need for it. At first it sounded like you wanted this because of some self impose requirement for mentor status, so it needs changing. The reality however, no matter the requirements you put in mentor status , there be a high number that does not deserve it, no matter the requirements.

    To really help you with advice or to properly comment on what you are really asking, you need to be clearer. If you want to know why it is the way it is I answered that. The mentor system and the dungeon clearing achievements was out before entering dungeons without sync, it is from when the game was 50. So my guess the development and honestly I feel the same way, that it is not important.

    So now I ask you to clear up things and simply explain why spiting this statistic is important. How does it effect GAME PLAY , to do it?
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    The Mentor system was added in patch 3.2. Unsync already existed by then.
    The dungeon achievements were in the game from earlier though.
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    Reading your list of submitted threads... you make a lot of weird topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    The Mentor system was added in patch 3.2. Unsync already existed by then.
    The dungeon achievements were in the game from earlier though.
    eh? didn't exist at level 50? or was that just the sprout thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    eh? didn't exist at level 50? or was that just the sprout thing
    New Adventurer status was around since 50 (the sprout).
    Mentors and the Hall of the Novice were added in 3.2 to help them out more.
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    always fun to check on forum on a daily basis and found bswpayton's thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    And what everyone has been asking you, including me, is why does it matter. Keep in mind the list I gave that I quoted myself on. As some suggested just seems a very weird ocd issue. You do a dungeon, doing a level 15-17 dungeon that takes 20 mins to do as a level 15, or as a level 60 that takes 8 mins to do.
    Because my request is pretty simple its not complex are crazy at all considering some of the things posted on the forums like how people are upset about SE selling an emote on mog station talk about proprieties. If someone thinks commendations dont mean anything at all then the very thought of my post wouldn't make sense to them, but the thing is they do the game says that they do , they dont say that emotes mean anything but clearly to the base they do.

    I mention having alts on my alts I never ran anything unsync and I also tanked on them I believe I have more commendations than instances on my alts. If you are a tank or healer even if some people dont give them, even if some like giving them to dps it is still a guide to whether or not you are preforming up to par. Because I can assure you if I mess up or cause a wipe 9 times out of 10 Im not gettin a commendation. But on my alts for instance my ratio is clear I have no unsync instances that I ran with friends its pure guild heist, trials , and dungeons on there no filler from unsync.

    All I was asking was to not have filler in my instances , because it creates a fabricated illusion of how many instances Ive done where I could be judged on my gaming performance. Because I said this is what a commendation is suppose to be and in most cases thats what it is the reason dps dont get them is because in any dungeon in the game if one dps goes down you can still do your duty. In many of the first dungeons you dont even need 2 dps Id say prob in every dungeon in the game you can finish a duty with 1 tank one healer and one dps. So there is a reason why tanks get them or healers because they just simply are needed more in most of the instances in the game.

    So all I was asking was just like on my alts to have a clear number, of my real duties the ones I actually went in witout just doing content with friends or helpin new players out in unsync content buffing my numbers to the point that my commendation to duty ratio is behind. Why this is so hard to understand is beyond me considering all the things posted on this forum everyday what I am asking is very valid for someone who may want to hold value to commendations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So there is a reason why tanks get them or healers because they just simply are needed more in most of the instances in the game.

    Why this is so hard to understand is beyond me considering all the things posted on this forum everyday what I am asking is very valid for someone who may want to hold value to commendations.
    First: So you're admitting that tank and heals dont get them because they're performing very good but because they're more needed - so to repeat again to you: Commendations arent judging your performance so much but an overall appereance.
    I would guess that I got 50% of my commendations simply because I was the tank, 25% because of my looks and 25% because I was chatting and making the run more pleasent for everyone.

    Second: Full-group dungeons shouldnt count then either, right? Because you cant get a commendation at the end. (And really, you should get rid of those horrible, horrible friends making you run dungeons with them - how... insenstive of them!)

    Third: And please, please explain this finally: Why do you believe this weird "ratio" of yours should be 1:1? That is sololey based on the assumption that you'll get (or deserve) one commendation each run you're doing - so out of seven people in a trial you're playing good enough to impress one but not the other six... I'd say this 1:6 commendation ratio there should tell you: Way to go, buddy!

    Upholding this weird idea of a 1:1 ratio is only going to make you unhappy about a topic no one really cares about - personally I dont tie commendations to duties that strictly. But I also view my commendations as a "Thank you for being a pleasent companion" and not as "You did well in this run" - I got 3.600 "Thank yous"; I didnt do 3.600 good runs. THAT is the value of commendations - the amount of people who enjoyed playing with you, for whatever reason. Simply your job (because they were so happy they got a tank after waiting for 30 minutes that they didnt care about the performance anymore), your glamour, your jokes, your explantions, and maybe, once in a while, your performance. Commendations arent school-grades a teacher gives you - they're the little notes and hugs from your classmates saying "Thanks!"
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    Pretty sure this thread is just going to continue down the exact same path. People ask OP for answers on why she thinks the ratio and commendations truly matter, and she skips or gives an outline of an answer. People respond to the outline, and she skips back a step to simply say it's down to OCD. This is it, this OP is your problem. It's not that you truly believe Commendations to be evidence that you're doing well, as you clearly stated tanks and healers get them just for rolling those roles. What the problem is, if you're not just baiting replies, is that you have OCD about two different meaningless achievements that have different numbers in them.

    Have you considered what you're going to do when you finish that dungeon achievements and it no longer tallies that? How will you know how well you're doing then by Commendations? As for the whole tank mounts, even if unsynced was removed from counting towards the achievement, people will just spam AS1, Bismarck and Ravana more, and they are just as easy now as unsynced things.

    Just admit to yourself that it's an OCD problem, and realise commendations are given out for random and pointless reasons, and is NOT a record of you doing well.
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