What is casual / hardcore player?

[Lucifer]

That makes no sense. If you've ever done martial arts you'd know that there are people who only train an hour a day 3 time a week or so. People who just do it for fun or just to keep in shape. Would you consider them as "hardcore" who trains every day and travels and competes in tournaments? I know when i was doing those things I didn't have time to do much else.

People that don't take it seriously I suppose, but if you are serious about martial arts; you need to train everyday. It must become part of your life. One to two hours a day is all you need to develop your body, but it's more than just keeping your body in physical shape. You went around traveling and even took part in competitions. That's definitely hardcore but in my opinion, any form of martial arts; if practiced seriously, is hardcore.

My original point was step on the idea that "hardcore" is basically saying, "You have no life, no girlfriends, blah blah."
Not everyone is some multimillionaire that can spend their day in any matter they see fit.

[Searious]

People that don't take it seriously I suppose, but if you are serious about martial arts; you need to train everyday. It must become part of your life. One to two hours a day is all you need to develop your body, but it's more than just keeping your body in physical shape. You went around traveling and even took part in competitions. That's definitely hardcore but in my opinion, any form of martial arts; if practiced seriously, is hardcore.

It is hardcore..and it gives you less time for other things like a full time job or girlfriend or social life. If you want to go full throttle with anything you've got to sacrifice something else.

My original point was step on the idea that "hardcore" is basically saying, "You have no life, no girlfriends, blah blah."

Lol you seriously think someone who can afford to put in 10+ hours into a game has a girlfriend? I mean a real one..not an internet one.
Not everyone is some multimillionaire that can spend their day in any matter they see fit.[/QUOTE]
You're right which is why I can't play this game as often as I like. That doesn't mean "hardcore players" should look down on me just because I've got a busier schedule than them.

[MeowMeow]

Lol you seriously think someone who can afford to put in 10+ hours into a game has a girlfriend? I mean a real one..not an internet one.

My coworkers have been married for 3 years. They play World of Warcraft 14 hours a day 3 days a week. They both work Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday on 8 hour shifts, so on those days they only play about 7 hours. That means they spend a grand total of 70 hours online, gaming together every week.

Yep. It's pretty easy for hardcore gamers to be spoken for. They tend to date and marry other hardcore gamers. Oh yea, I forgot to mention that they met while playing Runescape several years back. So yea, it happens.

And before you start saying there aren't many hardcore female gamers out there, you should probably crawl out from under the rock you live beneath. This is 2011, where 40% of gamers are female. Don't believe me? Look it up. As a female gamer, i would never date a guy who wasn't as into gaming as i am.

Couples who like gaming will game together. Couples who like movies will watch tv together. Couples who like riding bikes will proooobably ride bikes together. It's all about finding a person who is right for you.

[Searious]

My coworkers have been married for 3 years. They play World of Warcraft 14 hours a day 3 days a week. They both work Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday on 8 hour shifts, so on those days they only play about 7 hours. That means they spend a grand total of 70 hours online, gaming together every week.

Yep. It's pretty easy for hardcore gamers to be spoken for. They tend to date and marry other hardcore gamers. Oh yea, I forgot to mention that they met while playing Runescape several years back. So yea, it happens.

And before you start saying there aren't many hardcore female gamers out there, you should probably crawl out from under the rock you live beneath. This is 2011, where 40% of gamers are female. Don't believe me? Look it up. As a female gamer, i would never date a guy who wasn't as into gaming as i am.

Couples who like gaming will game together. Couples who like movies will watch tv together. Couples who like riding bikes will proooobably ride bikes together. It's all about finding a person who is right for you.

I'm not under any rocks. When I started playing FFXI it was with a gf. So I know it's possible to be a hardcore gamer and have a gf. It's also rare. Pointing out two people you know in a rare situation isn't going to convince me most of the guys who spend 10+ hours a day gaming. Female gamers are another story. It's a lot easier for female gamers to hook up with the oppisite sex than it is the other way around. That's an entirely different topic though. Lol i'm living in Japan capital of hardcore gamers where 61% of males between 18-34 a single.

Also touching on something in one of your earlier post I think it's hardcore gamers who look down on casuals. MY "no life" post are all a result of people bashing casuals. I was once someone who spent a lot of time playing games but now I have more stuff to do. The only ting preventing me from being a "hardcore" player is lack of time to play.

[MeowMeow]

Also touching on something in one of your earlier post I think it's hardcore gamers who look down on casuals. MY "no life" post are all a result of people bashing casuals. I was once someone who spent a lot of time playing games but now I have more stuff to do. The only ting preventing me from being a "hardcore" player is lack of time to play.

Trust me, there is NO WAY at all the "Casual gamers are noobs" argument sprung up before the "Hardcore players have no lives because they beat things before i do, and already have all the gear before i even know how to equip it."

Casual gamers have always looked down on hardcore gamers in general with this same sort of attitude. The hardcore hate on casuals is relatively new in comparison. Don't believe me? Ask your parents what they thought of the kids who played arcade games, or atari/NES for 10+ hours a day. I bet they'd say something along the lines of those kids being losers back in their days. Now go ask one of those "losers" what they thought about the kids who didnt play video games as much as they did... Bet they wouldn't call them losers. The hate started with the casual and non-gamers.

As a gamer i find people who do things like paintball, airsoft, gokart racing, R/C operating and similar hobbies to be quite odd. I don't like any of that stuff. I like games. Why get hurt playing paintball when i can just kick peoples ass on a FPS game? Why race a gokart when i can drive a Ford GT? Does that mean i think people who do those things are stupid? No... They do what they love, and so do I. Gaming makes me happy. Except when I get my ass kicked, then I get mad.


Btw, roughly 70% of all Americans and Europeans play video games. I can't find statistics on marriage in Europe as a whole, but 48% of Americans are currently married. That stat includes kids and widows as unmarried, pushing the number of married down in comparison. In other words, about 1/3rd of all American gamers are married. American gamers also log nearly twice the hours online than any other online gamers. I'd say another third at least are dating. I wish there were more stats on europe as a continent, though. I don't have time to go through and add it up country by country. As a European I can vouch that most people aren't as likely to game 8+ hours a day here as they are in America, but it certainly isn't rare. And it definitely isn't rare for them to be dating or married (usually to another gamer).

[TheFatHousecat]

Trust me, there is NO WAY at all the "Casual gamers are noobs" argument sprung up before the "Hardcore players have no lives because they beat things before i do, and already have all the gear before i even know how to equip it."

MY "no life" post are all a result of people bashing casuals. I was once someone who spent a lot of time playing games but now I have more stuff to do. The only ting preventing me from being a "hardcore" player is lack of time to play.

You know, guys, sinking down to someone else's level just to make a point makes you just as bad as them. This and many other threads on this forum would benefit if people stopped flaming/trolling each other over stupid sh*t.