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  1. #41
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    A sister...
    Obi-wan was wise to hide her from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Ahh, that could make sense. First I've heard of Yda having a sister.
    Yep, it's confirmed in the Eorzea Encyclopedia that Yda does indeed have a sister; we haven't met her yet ^^
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    [super inactive on this Forum LOL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    Yda is confirmed to have a sister, and the trailer girl has no tattoo, so it's highly likely her sister, not her.
    Yda does have a sister but Yda is due for a outfit change and she a major focus of MSQ at the moment.

    Plus if Yda isn't the girl in Red it literally leaves two characters in the SB artwork that aren't new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Read the actual DIALOGUE that was spoken, not just the journal summary. They quite specifically said he was sealed together inside with it. Furthermore, being "swallowed" does not imply he drained of his aether and killed like what happened with Moenbryda, it actually supports and confirms the fact he was sealed inside.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Nope. The reason she's "quite despondently moping" is because he's sealed inside. Or more accurately the simple fact he's not with her.

    Seriously, I wish I could quote the dialogue that quite specifically states he sealed himself inside the cocoon with the primal to shut this crap down. Anyone know of a website that transcribes dialogue?
    https://youtu.be/I99DZgeAjNc?t=10m11s

    There you go, also take note of Settiesama's post.

    I'd like to see how you're gonna "shut this crap down" as you say.

    Nowhere in that text is even implied he was going to seal himself inside the cocoon.

    The journal summary (which is as much canon as the dialog) uses two different terms for the person who was consumed by the spell and the entity sealed

    He forbid Yda from staying because "her path cannot end here"

    Urianger calls him a "fallen comrade"

    Alphinaud asks to himself "how many more must we lose?"

    Yda says "...It's over, Papalymo. It's all over..."

    Allisaie says "To attempt such a magick requires every onze of one's aether. No one─not even Grandfather─could cast it and hope to survive..."

    If you still think he's alive then by all means post your evidence that counters actual in game text, but drop the attitude.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post

    If you still think he's alive then by all means post your evidence that counters actual in game text.
    I don't know if he's still alive or not. I just know that the dialogue after that cutscene that you linked specifically said Papalymo sealed himself inside with the primal. I would love to post the actual dialogue, but there aren't any transcripts for the dialogue in question and you can't replay regular dialogue with the book in an inn room for me to screenshot it.

    Regardless of the fact I can't provide a screenshot, the claims that he's dead and "used up" from draining all his aether are just as unsubstantiated and uncorroborated. They are assumptions and false interpretations.
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  6. #46
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    I just gave you a link to a video of the quest playing out, post #35 also gave you a link to the transcript http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4059037

    Please go and post where it "quite specifically states" he sealed himself, I've given you the tools, you can provide screenshots.

    And please read the quotes I added to my last post, Allisaie explains how the spell works.
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    Zodiark.

    Zodiark is the Ascian's primal, no? Or is that just their diety? (At least it was heavily hinted toward the end of ARR story).. Lore buffs can correct me if I am wrong here.. I watch the cutscenes but am not as knowledgable about the Lore as some of you guys..
    Considering the Ascians aided Ilberd in the summoning / obtaining Nidhogg's eyes.
    It also being a primal that is more menacing than Bahamut, would suggest it would have to be a pretty damn strong Elder Primal.
    And a big part of the Ascian's plotline / goals have been to summon their primal..

    Just my speculation. I could be way off the mark.
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    Come now guys, it's fun to speculate and all that, but it is not healthy to deny such an obvious truth.

    I for one welcome our new lord and savior the Goliath Moogle when he finally breaks free from those feeble bonds the potato shackled him in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post

    Please go and post where it "quite specifically states" he sealed himself, I've given you the tools, you can provide screenshots.
    Your link doesn't include the conversation where they specifically state it. Your link doesn't include the full MSQ. And the previous link to transcripts only included a portion of the MSQ and at the top they have a disclaimer about leaving things out or rewording.

    Once someone posts a video of the full MSQ (someone did it for 3.4, so they may for 3.5), then I will be happy to point it out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Your link doesn't include the conversation where they specifically state it. Your link doesn't include the full MSQ. And the previous link to transcripts only included a portion of the MSQ and at the top they have a disclaimer about leaving things out or rewording.

    Once someone posts a video of the full MSQ (someone did it for 3.4, so they may for 3.5), then I will be happy to point it out for you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv671PWSoE4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--2A0nipWow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq0SEXlOdCw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfxsypVBrqk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I99DZgeAjNc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RMbQ5OluVA

    Bonus

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    Last edited by alimdia; 03-04-2017 at 04:42 PM.

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