Thread: MSQ Blue moon (spoilers if your not at 3.5 do not click this)

Originally Posted by alimdia

The spell swallowed him the same way the blade of light swallowed Moenbryda, Papalymo is gone, he's not sealed, his life aether was spent creating the cocoon.

The sealing spell is extremely aether costly, for the calamity Louisoux had to use the prayers of Eorzeans to the twelve to gain enough power for the sealing spell, he basically started a primal summoning using the prayers of the twelve to channel their power through tupsimati, for Baelsar's wall we didn't have that power readily available, so Papalymo uses the remaining power of Tupsimati and his own aether to finish the spell.

Read the actual DIALOGUE that was spoken, not just the journal summary. They quite specifically said he was sealed together inside with it. Furthermore, being "swallowed" does not imply he drained of his aether and killed like what happened with Moenbryda, it actually supports and confirms the fact he was sealed inside.

Originally Posted by Kaedan

Read the actual DIALOGUE that was spoken, not just the journal summary. They quite specifically said he was sealed together inside with it. Furthermore, being "swallowed" does not imply he drained of his aether and killed like what happened with Moenbryda, it actually supports and confirms the fact he was sealed inside.

The whole reason that Yda was against him using the ritual is it drains the caster of all his Aether, including his life force. Its a ritual that kills the caster. The only reason that Louisoix survived when he tried it was because the original ritual failed. If he was just stuck inside the bubble she probably wouldn't be quite so despondently moping in the Twelveswood right now.

Originally Posted by Belhi

The whole reason that Yda was against him using the ritual is it drains the caster of all his Aether, including his life force. Its a ritual that kills the caster. The only reason that Louisoix survived when he tried it was because the original ritual failed. If he was just stuck inside the bubble she probably wouldn't be quite so despondently moping in the Twelveswood right now.

Nope. The reason she's "quite despondently moping" is because he's sealed inside. Or more accurately the simple fact he's not with her.

Seriously, I wish I could quote the dialogue that quite specifically states he sealed himself inside the cocoon with the primal to shut this crap down. Anyone know of a website that transcribes dialogue?

Originally Posted by Felis

Except Saint Shiva.

I think just about the only reason Ysayle isn't tempered herself into believing she actually is Shiva is because she has the echo; some of the other heretics loyal to her end up tempered to believe she's Shiva reborn, if I remember right, and even she starts thinking similarly until Hraesvelgr disabuses her of it.

Then again, there's not much exploration into the specific effects of using yourself as the focus of the summon; the Heaven's Ward and the Archbishop are likely affected in some way by becoming the Knights of the Round, but there hasn't been much history given as to what their personalities were like before the Archbishop's plans.

Originally Posted by Kaedan

Anyone know of a website that transcribes dialogue?

Well, there is a transcript for this particular quest...
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lo...in_on_the_Wall
and the follow up
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lo...Finest_Student

But it doesn't contain anything about sealing.

Urianger
Pray forgive Archon Y'shtola her brevity. She seeketh employment, lest her grief deprive her of the will to act. A desire to comfort Yda doubtless compoundeth her unseemly haste.
I, too, must contend with this grievous loss in mine own way. By thy leave, Lady Alisaie, I shall honor our fallen colleague through gainful study. There exist writings which may yet further our understanding of this cocoon of light...

He's dead, they won't be doing ANOTHER "he's not actually dead" this time around unless they want to seriously bore us with them.

Originally Posted by Rysir

They sure like killing the scions eh? At the rate we are going we might end up with just Y'shtola, Thancred and Urianger still standing by the time Stormblood is over.

Well, I have a theory that the girl in red in the Stormblood trailer is Yda without her mask and her hair down. Especially since it's been revealed she isn't a Dancer, so she's just monk with more graceful moves.

And if she's Yda, then they probably won't kill her off either. ^_^

Originally Posted by Kaedan

Well, I have a theory that the girl in red in the Stormblood trailer is Yda without her mask and her hair down. Especially since it's been revealed she isn't a Dancer, so she's just monk with more graceful moves.

And if she's Yda, then they probably won't kill her off either. ^_^

Yda is confirmed to have a sister, and the trailer girl has no tattoo, so it's highly likely her sister, not her.

Originally Posted by Settiesama

Yda is confirmed to have a sister, and the trailer girl has no tattoo, so it's highly likely her sister, not her.

Ahh, that could make sense. First I've heard of Yda having a sister.