Quick Synthesis - Please speed it up!

[Caitlinzulu]

I would agree with Holy-chan, give us recipies where we craft 10 pieces at a time. Then we would have true quicksynth and in that case i wouldnt even need quicksynth and just manual or macro craft the stack. And inventory space wouldnt be an issue if they did it with metals and lumbers that stack anyway

[Galborion]

I would agree with Holy-chan, give us recipies where we craft 10 pieces at a time. Then we would have true quicksynth and in that case i wouldnt even need quicksynth and just manual or macro craft the stack. And inventory space wouldnt be an issue if they did it with metals and lumbers that stack anyway

Give us recipies where we can craft 99 pcs at a time. That would speed it up. I usually dont even care if it is NQ or HQ. 99 pcs of material with 100% NQ result is fine with me as long as its fast.

[craized]

You do realise if quick synthesis was significantly sped up if would contribute to market bloat (too many items on the market) and potentially bomb the market right?

[Galborion]

Yeah... more excuses and "reasons" why it cannot be done. I am getting sick of people who do nothing else but find a reason why something cannot be done.

[Elamys]

Yeah... more excuses and "reasons" why it cannot be done. I am getting sick of people who do nothing else but find a reason why something cannot be done.

You've been given good reasons on why it can't be done. The fact that you don't like them doesn't mean it's wrong. Culfinrandir is correct. The way the game communicates affects how quick synthesis works and how fast it can be. Holy-chan's idea might help (it definitely helped with camphor).

And honestly, it's not THAT slow. Less than ten minues (I think it's closer to 8 minutes) for an entire stack of items is perfectly reasonable and, yes, it actually is slower to manually synth it, even if you do finish it in just one Synthesis step.

[Galborion]

You've been given good reasons on why it can't be done. The fact that you don't like them doesn't mean it's wrong. Culfinrandir is correct. The way the game communicates affects how quick synthesis works and how fast it can be. Holy-chan's idea might help (it definitely helped with camphor).

And honestly, it's not THAT slow. Less than ten minues (I think it's closer to 8 minutes) for an entire stack of items is perfectly reasonable and, yes, it actually is slower to manually synth it, even if you do finish it in just one Synthesis step.

Did you read more then my rant post? I am perfectly fine with "bulk" recipes and I am also perfectly fine, if result of bulk recipe will always be normal quality. Because, honestly, 8 minutes per stack is THAT slow.

[Niwashi]

Sure, it could all be done speedily client side, like in many other games, but it is incredibly easy to cheat the server into believing that you just crafted a stack of 99HQ items that way.

It's the servers that decide which crafts come out HQ or NQ, and we already know it can do that noticeably faster than quick synth does, since we can manually craft simple items faster than quick synth does. (Anything that only takes a single synth to finish is slowed down quite a bit by doing quick synth instead.) People aren't asking (necessarily) for the actions to be faster, just that they immediately follow one another at at least the same rate they would if done one-by-one. Or actually, it probably could be a bit quicker than that, since there's less communication needed between client and server during quick synth.

The fact that quick synth is slower than manual one-step synthesis seems fairly clear proof that it isn't about any technical limitations, but just about limiting the usefulness of automated crafting. (Personally, I feel it would have been better to eliminate any possibility of HQ during quick synth, but let it be faster. SE, on the other hand, not only chose to allow HQ, but even updated it to increase the HQ chance. If they're relying instead on the slow speed to keep it from being overused, then they're not going to speed it up.)

[Culfinrandir]

Did you fully read my post? I am aware it is done server side, thus the delay. As for "simple crafts being faster", that is because you aren't allowing for the time you, as a human, take to select the craft & press the buttons. It may seem faster but in reality it isn't. This is magnified greatly the more complex the craft is, or the lower the levels. Plus, there's the global server polling & latency to account for in every single action. They've already sped it up, I'm sure if they could make it fast, they would. They don't set out to inconvenience & upset players.

[Niwashi]

As for "simple crafts being faster", that is because you aren't allowing for the time you, as a human, take to select the craft & press the buttons. It may seem faster but in reality it isn't.

Even if that were true (which it isn't) it wouldn't be relevant. We were only discussing how long the server needs to complete its part of the process, since that's the only part that happens during quick synth. The server can determine the outcome of a quick synth in the same time as it can determine the outcome of a single Basic Synthesis action. The difference is that it doesn't need to then wait for the user to specify the next action. It goes right from one to the next.

Plus, there's the global server polling & latency to account for in every single action.

You're just making things up now. Quit trolling. There is no latency involved in Quick Synth, because it's a server action followed by a server action followed by a server action, etc. Latency only figures into things where the server and client have to communicate between each action, but that's not the case here. The only communication going on during quick synth (well, the communication that's relevant to the synth, anyway) is for the server to notify the client what the result of each one was: a HQ item, NQ item, or failure. But that notification is after the fact, and doesn't have any bearing on the following synth in the batch. It doesn't introduce latency because there's no reason for the server to wait for that communication to complete before continuing.

[Elamys]

I think we're also forgetting something very obvious in that each synth matches up to the animation, as do many things in this game, and I somehow doubt that SE is going to change it. Which makes the only solution be each craft produces multiple items.