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  1. #1
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    It's Ultima....why is it a weakling "elite mob"?
    We are the Warriors of Light who slayed countelss extreme primals.
    And there are 24 of us!
    I'm sorry, but Ultima simply has no any chance.
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    We are the Warriors of Light who slayed countelss extreme primals.
    And there are 24 of us!
    I'm sorry, but Ultima simply has no any chance.
    ah, no. There's just one in existence according to the story, not an army. Pultima is a poor implementation for something that is supposed to be a golden, shiny version of the ultima weapon. the equivalent of this is having the Warring Triad (or other primals) be a roulette dungeon run to be mowed down. no joy at all.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 03-01-2017 at 10:11 PM.

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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Took him on last night, it didn't end as quick as others have posted but it was still quicker than what is normally there. Yet, all those complaining how easy it was were all dead in the fight.

    People would put in threads about how they can't level every job or how difficult it was to level up multiple jobs. We are nearing the end of 3.0 and with 4.0 this gives people to spec out the entire accessory side of things. There shouldn't be much of an issue for people getting geared up for all content at this point along with getting ready for 4.0

    People also complained over the way instances and dungeons were set up. They begged even for the slightest difference, as slight as this is..we got one. Yet people are not happy.

    One thing I see a lot since 2.0 is that people seem to have a hard time getting gear for the accessory side while leveling up. In 3.0 the gear you could get at the end of 2.0 took you well into the 50's, sure you could go to 60 you were just being a pain in the rear for the most part. This should help most people with that issue.

    Still, I like the ability of quests changing the monsters inside of an instance. Applying this to dungeons would be wonderful, you could get a token to instead obtain a piece of gear that you need for a job / glamour.

    On the other hand, this was so easy to push through I have no idea what the fight is about...he jumps apparently at some point? I really couldn't tell, he was dead. The HP should be increased, and it's taking something that gives a good item level accessory of your choice and hands it to you. To me this goes against wanting to close the gap of the players. Making difficult content to where they have to dodge and perform. This fight is easier than the succubus but gives better rewards. There is both good and bad from this, just depends on which you get more out of.

    The way this game is set up it is easy to make things too easy / hard. Our combat revolves around a few aspects so one change is a big one. This is their fault for the way the game was made to avoid it being too complex for people. In the end it's an easy weekly that stacks with other weekly quests. I'm not thrilled with it but I don't hate it either. So I'll continue to accept the taco inside a taco inside a taco bell quest, and I'm sure those who complain..will too. So you're feeding the machine.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 03-01-2017 at 10:29 PM.

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    Lovescake's Avatar
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    Loves Cake
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    We are the Warriors of Light who slayed countelss extreme primals.
    And there are 24 of us!
    I'm sorry, but Ultima simply has no any chance.
    I mean if you wanna pull that card with story relevance we're the ONLY warrior of light..
    (1)

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    Radacci's Avatar
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    We are the Warriors of Light who slayed countelss extreme primals.
    And there are 24 of us!
    I'm sorry, but Ultima simply has no any chance.
    ya and that silly ferdiad has more hp than....Ultima Weapon....sorry but wut?
    Ultima Weapon was made to fight primals, and it annihilates Ifrit/Garuda/Titan, while Diabolos is way tougher than Proto. Even Deathgaze is tougher than Proto....it's comparable to a SUCCUBUS!!! it's ridiculous.
    Since it gives you weekly 270 accessories, it needs to be comparable to the other bosses - not to mention EVERY RAID MEMBER gets a token.
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    (And even Ultima is weak). Even makes sense lorewise. I won't do a drama for this.
    Ultima is Weak? it one shot Ifirit/Garuda/Titan, in the MSQ...and casts the spell Ultima. if it had absorbed some more primals, it could have defeated Bahamut...
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Ultima is Weak? it one shot Ifirit/Garuda/Titan, in the MSQ...and casts the spell Ultima. if it had absorbed some more primals, it could have defeated Bahamut...
    yes, and now at our current strength he is completely killable solo.


    and the one we face in DS is a 5000 year old neglected prototype that is likely more broken than the last tv you threw out and half the size of the final version. not to mention it doesn't have access to a Heart of Sabick level artifact.
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    ya and that silly ferdiad has more hp than....Ultima Weapon....sorry but wut?
    Ultima Weapon was made to fight primals, and it annihilates Ifrit/Garuda/Titan, while Diabolos is way tougher than Proto. Even Deathgaze is tougher than Proto....it's comparable to a SUCCUBUS!!! it's ridiculous.
    Since it gives you weekly 270 accessories, it needs to be comparable to the other bosses - not to mention EVERY RAID MEMBER gets a token.
    Why are you talking about Proto-Ultima as if he were the Ultima Weapon in the MSQ? He's not.
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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    Did it today and it's really fun. The fact that our aliance got completely slaughtered on the first try made me like it even more. (we returned the favor on the second try though)

    To me way more fun than the Sukkubu or w/e that thing is called
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    Did it today and it's really fun. The fact that our aliance got completely slaughtered on the first try made me like it even more. (we returned the favor on the second try though)

    To me way more fun than the Sukkubu or w/e that thing is called
    Wait, slaughtered? How is that even possible? I came home the morning of patch day and did this first thing and we killed it super easily. I do not know how you can get slaughtered in this fight.
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