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    Radacci's Avatar
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    We are the Warriors of Light who slayed countelss extreme primals.
    And there are 24 of us!
    I'm sorry, but Ultima simply has no any chance.
    ya and that silly ferdiad has more hp than....Ultima Weapon....sorry but wut?
    Ultima Weapon was made to fight primals, and it annihilates Ifrit/Garuda/Titan, while Diabolos is way tougher than Proto. Even Deathgaze is tougher than Proto....it's comparable to a SUCCUBUS!!! it's ridiculous.
    Since it gives you weekly 270 accessories, it needs to be comparable to the other bosses - not to mention EVERY RAID MEMBER gets a token.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    (And even Ultima is weak). Even makes sense lorewise. I won't do a drama for this.
    Ultima is Weak? it one shot Ifirit/Garuda/Titan, in the MSQ...and casts the spell Ultima. if it had absorbed some more primals, it could have defeated Bahamut...
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Ultima is Weak? it one shot Ifirit/Garuda/Titan, in the MSQ...and casts the spell Ultima. if it had absorbed some more primals, it could have defeated Bahamut...
    yes, and now at our current strength he is completely killable solo.


    and the one we face in DS is a 5000 year old neglected prototype that is likely more broken than the last tv you threw out and half the size of the final version. not to mention it doesn't have access to a Heart of Sabick level artifact.
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    ya and that silly ferdiad has more hp than....Ultima Weapon....sorry but wut?
    Ultima Weapon was made to fight primals, and it annihilates Ifrit/Garuda/Titan, while Diabolos is way tougher than Proto. Even Deathgaze is tougher than Proto....it's comparable to a SUCCUBUS!!! it's ridiculous.
    Since it gives you weekly 270 accessories, it needs to be comparable to the other bosses - not to mention EVERY RAID MEMBER gets a token.
    Why are you talking about Proto-Ultima as if he were the Ultima Weapon in the MSQ? He's not.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

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    Did it today and it's really fun. The fact that our aliance got completely slaughtered on the first try made me like it even more. (we returned the favor on the second try though)

    To me way more fun than the Sukkubu or w/e that thing is called
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    Eve Neuschwanstein
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    Im kinda relieved its not a 24 man extreme fight. The 24 man content we have is already wipefest hellholes, because people still wipe at fights like Ozma, Forgal and Diabolos, and they are not even challenging in any way, its all just faceroll content. Just imagine trying to do extreme level mechanics in a 24 man party.... I wonder why people suck so much at 24 man content, maybe they just assume its fine to afk in there, seriously, i dont understand.
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    Aranie Crowley
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    I still don't get what it's doing in Dun Scaith but....meh, it's not that bad.
    The issue comes from the fact it was teased as a super thing, a trial of it's own, not a trash mob hence the disapointment

    It would be nice if it could drop the pieces to get the horns from one of Rowena's pet
    (considering the FATE is never up ^^")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Yes it is. I like the fight, even if it is an easy difficulty boss. Cannot be a trial because then, people will do it 1 time and forget for the rest of the week, difficulting the queues a lot. Put in the Dun Scaith is a good idea, as Dun Scaith is run all the week. Also, this boss doesn't suppose to exist, and wasn't planned for the game. So it is better they put in dun Scaith rather than just not put him. Also, it is a Prototype, like the name suggest. Is not as powerful as Ultima (And even Ultima is weak). Even makes sense lorewise. I won't do a drama for this.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 03-01-2017 at 07:01 PM.

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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Yes, I'm totally fine with the iconic Ultima Weapon being knocked down to a 1 minute weaker than some adds miniboss.

    /Sarcasm
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Yes, I'm totally fine with the iconic Ultima Weapon being knocked down to a 1 minute weaker than some adds miniboss.

    /Sarcasm
    to be fair it is proto ultima XD

    but really I got what I expected the fan fest fight in game and really didn't expect to be its own trial due to this interview.

    Famitsu: At Fan Fest we enjoyed the 24-man Proto-Ultima fight. Was it created solely for the event?

    Yoshida: We plan to implement it in a patch for those who were unable to attend Fan Fest. You might want to look forward to how you access the fight.

    Famitsu: Will we be able to play it in-game?

    Yoshida: Yes, the release schedule will be similar to the Odin trial. Since that trial was stand-alone it led to the problem of people no longer queuing for it as time went on. We’ve taken a lesson from that and we’ve put Proto-Ultima in a new place, so please look forward to where it’ll be.

    Famitsu: Will it still be a 24-man fight?

    Yoshida: Yes.
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