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    Rama Kagon
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    That is in reference to what I was taught and what I aim for. I should have aggro all the time for all the things. To the people I learned from, saying "The BLM or ARC did not use quelling strikes" and I lost hate was not good enough. It was only an excuse, and they would not accept it. Their answer to those times were "You didn't do your job properly."
    Mistakes happen, that is a rule of life, and we learn from our mistakes and improve on them. The only excuse here is if you kept doing the mistake and never wanted to improve upon them. I don't know who taught you this but, "I bend but I do not break" is the best thing I can say here because, sometimes, you have to admit your mistakes (heck I admit that I tend to over generalize this game's community and I tend to have a grudge on it), but sometimes I have to admit that I do find good people. Rarely but I do find them. It's the same for tanking: if you pretend perfection without exceptions you'll eventually break instead of bending. I'm far from perfect but as long as I get the job done, I don't really have a problem.

    With that said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    I do not think the community is toxic or overly toxic. There are bad people in the community, but they are the minirity of people I come across. Most are at least decent people, some are nice.
    To give a general idea of what you said: I don't think all of my 3513 runs were terrible BUT, and this is a big one, in comparison to other games I played, the amounts of bad people I met during these 4 years it's the same, if not double more than I met during my 11 years of wow, and that's ONE game.

    I obviously played a lot of WoW (and also a lot of TERA, while the others I only played for a year or two at best) and let's take WoW as a comparison for the moment because at least most of us knows it or even played it one day in the past: in the 11 years i I played it (I started in 2006, near TBC launch) I had more or less the same amount of bad people I had in ffxiv in the span of 4 years and that includes raids. And while the general opinion about WoW is that "its community is toxic" - and I won't disagree there - however I found mostly helpful and generally "good" people whenever I did my dungeons in that game, while this game seems apathic and rarely helpful at all. Heck my first mythic in wow I was so scared but the people were quite patient and never bashed me for having "less than optimal gear" (I was 840) and that surprised me considering all the "omg wow is so bad" vibe the game gets. I was shocked in a good way.

    On the other hand, in this game I often had to deal with toxicity in my trials and raids (dungeons a bit less thankfully), with quite a good amount of people bashing on newbies like me for going in without knowing the proper ways (even as a first timer). Heck, I quit nidhogg EX because someone was quite harsh on me because "I did not know how to move during p3", it made me tear up. Granted the person apologized so there was no debate but...really? Did she had to tell me that "how can you not understand this, if you did coil?" That's something I NEVER experienced before and even if I did, it was never so mean or anything this bad. I felt so destroyed that I quitted primal clearing until 3.5 and now I'm on Zurvan thanks to ME and nobody else. Nobody bothers to help newbies or people held back like me as you know.

    So does my post say the community is bad? Yes, but I suppose I'm over the top and exaggerating a lot of time and considering I can't lash out of what I think about the community in game without being considered a troll (not that I care, but I'd like to spend my time in game differently), this is the only place I can go full out without being considered crazy.
    Oh no I'm not joking there: I was suddenly ostracized by a FC during ARR for disagreeing that the community is good (literally disagreeing, no harsh rebuke or offending words), to the point that nobody would talk to me and the second in command whispered me to see if I was "mentally distressed". Yep, apparently saying the community is "not good" equals to being considered mentally disordered! And that was sad because I loved these guys and I remember spending so much time with them in primals and stuff (I played with them for about 6 months) and suddenly saying something "different" turned me into the black sheep. Suffice to say, I will never join a FC ever again and to this day I'm still FCless

    So either I had the worst case of luck ever or maybe the good people are hiding or something, but considering my past experience and how people generally say "this is the best community ever" (which I often mock it, I admit it), I simply can't agree with that statement overall: I find it to be average at best and, in all honesty, not too different from WoW in many aspects and, to sum my experience up, I had more negatives than positives.

    However I will say this: I am always open to surprises and if I start seeing better people in the game, I'll be more than glad to take my words back.

    By the way just in case, I just replied to give you a better idea of my thoughts but nothing more. I'm glad we haven't reached into harsh rebukes or such. I prefer to avoid needless fights.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 03-03-2017 at 08:49 AM.