How to get people to tank!

[Edewen]

I love how people rally to this complete non issue. If you don't like dps queues, then tank or heal. It is a self fixing issue. Dps queues in this game are nowhere near as bad as some others. There is nothing to fix.

[Zojha]

If you don't like dps queues, then tank or heal...

...or play a different game. That option naturally also contributes to better the queue times, but it's not very beneficial to the game as a whole.

And honestly, if I had the option to either play something I don't want or not at all, I'd probably choose the latter option myself. I only get by as is because I don't mind healing/tanking every now and again.

[Silverquick]

Honestly even though I like the Caster class and large damage, I have considered trying out DRK, I liked them in the last game, but this game they are a tank type class so I may try one out eventually.

[bardaboo]

There's plenty of things to do while waiting.

[Venjenz]

Quick updates from the ranks of the leveling tank in the daily DF grind - I think my first two experiences were not as indicative of the tank misery overall as I recall from before (2 years ago). My last half dozen or so DF groups were somewhere between polite and pleasant, and I keep getting player comms. Haven't had a bad healer yet, and the DPS have been a mixed bag, but tilting slightly to the better than average side of things.

So it isn't as miserable as I recall, and I think my total n00bness in the first couple DF groups after my long layoff had as much to do with the negativity I received as the players themselves.

Haven't done anything too hard yet, and it's all pretty easy clears with the requisite goofs and mistakes, but I am actually enjoying tanking right now, and DF groups aren't bothering me even a little. Maybe the playerbase is nicer than I remember, or I am on a nicer server? Not sure, but it's not that bad.

[Marxam]

there is nothing you can do to fix this unfortunately. The problem is not the tank job selection but rather what the job represents, and that is responsibility, party awareness and the ability to learn a battle faster than any other role in the game. Then coupled with the fact that people will have personal preferences and bias' and you just narrowed the selection of people who are willing to take tanking up as a main. I myself am a WAR main but I also make sure to level the other tank jobs so I have a rounded feel for the role and can adjust if needed. I love to tank especially as WAR because seeing high hp and damage are my two favorite things in any game. However given the community ridicule towards tanks, especially in df, I can see why it's an unpopular role. Nobody likes to be ridiculed or called out but most of us tanks had to deal with it at some point.

[Seku]

So give Earth Stance to every DPS? Give Earth stance higher hate generation? D=.

But nah. No reason to try and force people to tank when they don't want to. They'd just end up making the run slower due to the false sense of responsibility that people pin to a tank. I'd rather have two DPS's just run in and let me keep them alive as a healer going through leveling dungeons, than a new tank that doesn't know what their doing and feels their being forced into a role they don't want to play. ;o

[Claire_Pendragon]

So give Earth Stance to every DPS? Give Earth stance higher hate generation? D=.

But nah. No reason to try and force people to tank when they don't want to. They'd just end up making the run slower due to the false sense of responsibility that people pin to a tank. I'd rather have two DPS's just run in and let me keep them alive as a healer going through leveling dungeons, than a new tank that doesn't know what their doing and feels their being forced into a role they don't want to play. ;o

To me this makes little to no sense, as I would equate your comment to;
"Id rather 2 DPS 1 Healer, instead of 2.5 DPS and 1 healer"
If you were willing to heal 2 DPS, why not a 3rd DPS, with less dmg, and more survival?

[Noscifer]

SE did a great job in FF14 making tank appealing. You can tank and DPS, best of both world. Personnally I've had a lot of fun leveling WAR and DRK, never had any problem.

The real problem lies without the cesspool of players that you meet once you get to endgame, they are used to geared tanks, so anything less is unacceptable, also the me myself and I culture is pretty crazy.

Since I got to 60, I lost all my drive to play, I don't want to be part of a community this rotten. Had I leveled DPS, it might have been different but that's not the case.

On a side note, I haven't wiped in a dungeon yet since level 50 on both WAR and DRK, nor did I let anyone die, so it's not an issue about sucking at tanking.

[Ran1880]

I only enjoy tanking and healing.Started out as war main,cleared all coil mod then got fed up being OT doing dirt work and switch to astro in and will likely stay so for a while.Looking forward to SB and SE making pld great again.