How to get people to tank!

[Fluffernuff]

i think its something like bringing tanks damage up while not increasing dps damage, which basically is never going to happen, because then everyone would roll a tank instead.

Skimming over the OP makes it seem like any DPS would be able to fill the Tank roll and give passive buffs to them in order to "try" to actually tank, but not give them any buttons to press to actually tank. bassicly just roiding them up with armor and enmity modifers. Which is exactly what I assumed above.

Though I have to assume something else now. If a DPS is getting no active cooldowns, how are they going to take a hit? a tank buster will still 1-shot them. making this entire idea useless on it's foundation.

If we give the DPS the ability to take a tank buster, we can effectively remove PLD and DRK from the game at that point...


I REALLY wanna be missing something here, because this idea to me is just looking worse....

[darzok]

There is NO way to fix this problem with out making every class a tank.

Rewards do not work you just end up with a load of bad tanks for a short time to gear there DPS classes.

Simplifying tanking you just end up for a short time with a load of bad tanks and would most likely mean all content has to be made much easier. It would all so annoy many tanks who enjoy how tanks work now most likely ending up with lower tank numbers after a month or so.

New tank classes do not work you just end up with a load of bad tanks trying the new class only to vanish a week or two later. The only players who stay are mostly the main tank players to start with.(Drk incase you forgot)

The problem is player based people expect tanks to know EVERY fight and take the blame for any error even if its out of his/her control. Its highly annoying to deal with bad players who just rage at you even if its there own dam fault you become the target.

I did machi the other day 1 wipe due to people not avoiding aoes me and the other 2 tanks was to blame and got insulted quite abit for it since we are to blame for random aoe's and people not moving to avoid them.

[Aamalthea]

There is NO way to fix this problem with out making every class a tank.
The problem is player based people expect tanks to know EVERY fight and take the blame for any error even if its out of his/her control. Its highly annoying to deal with bad players who just rage at you even if its there own dam fault you become the target.

Going to have to agree with this. I'm one of those that wants to tank, but doesn't because of anxiety. I did for a while back before HW but so many times I got chewed out for being new in a dungeon. I would love to do it now (I play as tanks in potd and enjoy it) but I'd have to learn what I'm doing in the dungeons. Not that many people have the patience to just let you learn or give you good advice. If you don't know what you're doing from day 1 and do it absolutely perfectly at all times, you're bad. I don't think there's anything SE can do about that, it's like that in lots of MMOs.

[ADVSS]

Going to have to agree with this. I'm one of those that wants to tank, but doesn't because of anxiety. I did for a while back before HW but so many times I got chewed out for being new in a dungeon. I would love to do it now (I play as tanks in potd and enjoy it) but I'd have to learn what I'm doing in the dungeons. Not that many people have the patience to just let you learn or give you good advice. If you don't know what you're doing from day 1 and do it absolutely perfectly at all times, you're bad. I don't think there's anything SE can do about that, it's like that in lots of MMOs.

Honestly you should go with it. potd does offer a lot more tanking critical thinking than many of the existing hard modes, with potd, like original stone vigil, youre aware of scouts/wanderers, potential traps of many spawns, and being able to identify or necessitate a quick route with minimal kills if the objective is time based. Boom. You will be fine, as nothing learned as a tank was ever explained in game besides the dungeons like original stone vigil

[darzok]

Its not that hard you just need to go watch the vids on youtube for what ever are planning to do. If you do wipe or mess up most people are ok with it but a few people are just utter muppets and will have a little rage about it but its not that common but sooner or later you will come across one.

[Dreggit]

I just saw a thread that got deleted that said that they hated getting pallies in dungeons, now, I didn't get around to reading it before the thread was removed, but allegedly people were supporting it, or so I'm told. As a pally main that makes me sad

[winsock]

Lots of people try tank. Many quit because they understandably screw stuff up due to lack of experience, then get critized for it.

If you want more tanks, don't cry when they make the mistakes they need to make to learn the role.

[darzok]

Lots of people try tank. Many quit because they understandably screw stuff up due to lack of experience, then get critized for it.

If you want more tanks, don't cry when they make the mistakes they need to make to learn the role.

Never happen people in game seem to expect a tank will do every thing right first time every time and any error is down to the tank been bad and must be abused and shamed for it.

Its not going to change as you can not force people to be nice and it has high odds to backfire or have people just find away around it.

[Gaj85]

I tried to Tank, I got my DRK to 60. The issue was that since I was a new tank I was still learning the ways. Too many times I had people being very rude to me and even got kicked a few times. So that was a HUGE turn off. The only time I could practice was if I was in a group of my friends (which living in Korea it is hard to match their times in the States).

[Misutoraru]

i did little bit tanking during 2.0, and did not do it again till recently
but I feel it is kinda discouraging
it is not that often, but when i doing dung run everyday, i eventually ran into one or two of them
they expect the tank to know everything, and always want big pull no matter how our equipment level, if anything go wrong, tank is always being blame
this is the pressure blocking me to main a tank, even i found some tank class interesting, i would still prefer to main a Healer or DPS to get experience of the dung before i try tanking one