[Dev] Proto Ultima Aiming gear, MCH=/= BRD

[Ama_Hamada]

I almost feel like, based on your comments, that it would be better to argue that they should remove secondaries outright. There will be times where, due to itemization, certain gear pieces will be favoured over others depending on the slot, gear, and job. This will always be the case and will never change unless they remove secondaries outright. If they don't remove secondaries you'll basically make the same complaint a year down the road for another secondary choice because you'll never be able to perfectlybalance the stats.

I would not debate that because I know it is a losing argument to the mass. However I wouldn't complain if they did. The balance does not have to be perfect but it should be better then our current. skill speed pretty much does nothing for MCH, this is different then saying it is simply unfavorable, it really does almost nothing, so much so a 250 does more damage then a 270 that has speed/accuracy on it.

And out of curiosity, just how many gear sets you propose S-E makes to facilitate all potential BiS builds for a character? Because there are a lot of permutations you can pull off for this and I personally feel it's not worth the effort for S-E to do that every six months.

I would also like to hear your proposal on how you would change the loot drop choices. If you have 200 pieces of gear potentially dropping from a single chest, that's just going to irritate a lot of players as they won't be able to acquire their gear readily unless we token system everything.

I will agree that it would be nice to glamour each job independently but I feel that's a completely different discussion compared to what you opened up with in the OP.

Just have each job have its own set, like some of the PvP event did, WAR, DRK, PLD have its own sets. There should be no gear sharing. If there is multiple jobs sharing just one set, it leads to job imbalances when it comes to performance.

For the other question, just token everything. I am sick on.. being week 6? or something of the sort? where my friend is still unable to see caster pants drop in dun, while it took me too many runs to see healer body.

For example, say you need to do 5 runs to get whatever body for the week, just make it some kind of currency. Stop abusing people on rng.

It is still related, STOP GEAR SHARING ACROSS JOBS!!!!! Because having 2 + jobs access the same gear, it is likely one of those jobs ends up left on the short end of the stick , stat wise, since stats appeal to the jobs differently.

[Dzian]

Just have each job have its own set, like some of the PvP event did, WAR, DRK, PLD have its own sets. There should be no gear sharing. If there is multiple jobs sharing just one set, it leads to job imbalances when it comes to performance..

I'd agree with this just for glamour sakes. and it's not new either. mythic / eso gears were both job specific..

I hate shared gear because its often generic and not fitting of the job. ninjas especially there's very little ninja gar that looks remotely ninja themed... the weird thing about that though is its the only job that can use scouting anyway...

but tanks the shire gear doesn't fit any tank and my paladins glamours mean I cant glamour my warrior....
so yeah all for job specific gear sets especially ones that better fit there jobs thematically

[ErryK]

there is no 260-270 head for mch, you are stuck using 250. same goes for neck gear and hands. For hands you have to just suck up having the useless skill speed. Why does MCH have to be stuck on 260/270 for ring and brd can have 270/270? This is just a few examples how there is not enough gear options. It was also the same for Feet till dun fixed that for having a 260, same with belt I think.

270 Alex head is Crit/Det, favourable for MCH. 270 Alex neck is Acc/Crit, favourable for MCH. 270 Alex gloves is Acc/Det, favourable for MCH, what useless SkS? MCH was stuck using 260/270 rings prior to Proto Ultima, the Ultima ring is actually a higher stat weight overall than the 260 Crit/Det ring. Not enough gear options or just literally looking for Crit/Det pieces only? Also, seriously? Crit/Det 260 belt is good when we had Alex 270 Crit/Det belt since 3.4? Feet are fine with Acc/Det 270 from Alex.

I am sitting at at 1115 Crit and 965 Det on my MCH in BiS with i275 Anima. If you can't get Alex gear, then that's just unfortunate and you have to deal with sub-optimal stats.

[ShaneDawn]

MCH had a much better spread for the longest of times due to Alex gun being optimal crit/det, while the Bow stats sucked ass. Where was all the crying back then?

MCH can still get a very favorable stat lineup when accounting all possible pieces. You will be stuck with only one piece of SkS gear, being the ring. Obviously if all gear pieces are not available for you (Alex Savage), then you will have to deal with the frustration of not getting the most optimal stat spread.

Even if they do segregate the gear sets between classes, where's your guarantee that the available will be any better? Some of the better stat options would still be behind Savage Raids. Unless you mean to rework the system as a whole? Only give Crit, Det and Acc on MCH gear?

[aesteval]

It is still related, STOP GEAR SHARING ACROSS JOBS!!!!! Because having 2 + jobs access the same gear, it is likely one of those jobs ends up left on the short end of the stick , stat wise, since stats appeal to the jobs differently.

And then you'll have people complaining about how the top level tomestone (or any other weekly lockout) can only be used to gear one job at a time.

[Kemonologist]

If you aren't harcore raider who want to DPS race, that secondary isn't affect much for every contents in game. You can still pass it with out BiS everything. Why people worry about BiS in secondary stat that much.

[loreleidiangelo]

If you aren't harcore raider who want to DPS race, that secondary isn't affect much for every contents in game. You can still pass it with out BiS everything. Why people worry about BiS in secondary stat that much.

God, does it even affect all that much AT the Savage level? I guarantee flubbing part of your rotation is a bigger DPS loss than having crap secondaries in a single slot.

[AnaviAnael]

[edit] Looking at your lodestone, why not post on your main? It's clear you do other things than craft yet here you are on your crafting alt. Or if you are just playing the game for crafting it seems pretty silly to get worked up about things that have no real bearing to you either *Shrugs more*

If Ama is who I think they are, then crafting is mostly what they do.

[JunseiKei]

Stop cross classing BRD and MCH gear if you can't balance stats. All of these are useless for MCH and has a BRD bias and some are useless for both classes.

Maybe, and this is a crazy idea, SE balances jobs passively by assigning certain stats to gear.

[Yukiko]

Not sure when (maybe it was around 2.x) but once they explained why they do so:
They made it so, that we have to mix gear!
Their main purpose was to prevent us from farming only "one" Content... so we dont get bored.

God, does it even affect all that much AT the Savage level? I guarantee flubbing part of your rotation is a bigger DPS loss than having crap secondaries in a single slot.

You miss to tell that you are talking just from last 4 Savage Content, i am not sure if you played before when Coil was new Content or other Alexander when they were new...